It's been downhill since 2020
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This is actually the right answer. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and we're all still in the middle of what is essentially a no-declared-sides WWIII now. 2015 was good, but things had shifted in the world a bit. Countering China was starting to become a huge deal suddenly for the US, and China moved into the South China Sea and did some currency revaluation that was all aimed at their 2029 and 2049 CCP anniversary goals.
Also, I was in fucking phenomenal shape.
I'd argue that 9/11 was when the major shift started in the US.
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Ive lived through a few of these already.
2020 is when everything changed.
2016 is when everything chagned.
2012 is when everything changed.
2008 is when everything changed.
2001 is when everything changed.
Boomer: 1968
Martin Scorcese: 33 AD
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Ive lived through a few of these already.
2020 is when everything changed.
2016 is when everything chagned.
2012 is when everything changed.
2008 is when everything changed.
2001 is when everything changed.
I vote for 2016. The unthinkable happened.
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2016 as a gen z i reamber the xanax epidemic of the time and it was bad
Was that when the mumble rapper OD'd on hot cheetos?
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hhhooo boy...let me tell you about how it felt to live in the world before September 11th 2001...
it was freaking amazing.
idk, I was a kid and harry potter wasn’t real, so that kind of sucked for me
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)wrote last edited by [email protected]2000
Just been a whipsaw shitshow since.
2000 is when Bush got elected and we openly courted the fringe, the uneducated, and religious right. Openly chose obstinacy and willful ignorance in an unqualified nepo-president who got the job because of daddy. 9/11 happened and the standard became selling shitty policy to Americans by labeling it something patriotic. The tax breaks came fast and hard, more unilateral decision making by the President. We can easily argue there were a lot of historic actions that led up to this from Gingrich to Nixon to Reagan, but Bush and the RNC are the one that really set things in motion to get us to trump. The Tea Partiers, Pailin, the official voice of the Right used openly to demonize the left and people like McConnell or Bohner actively sabotaging bipartisanship and undermining the presidency.
Yeah, 2000 for sure.
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In a way it's fair to say that every moment changes every moment that happens after. The entire global economy is still reeling from Reaganomics ffs.
I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I'd seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.
From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off... And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.
Then it started snowballing... Bill Cosby's a rapist, there's a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone's kind of okay with, we created AI but it's only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn't a crime if you brag about it, America's war machine is being turned on its cities... Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.
It's a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children's book in an elementary school.
Perhaps this is the result of 'modern' values corrupting our society.
We must return to the old status quo
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American defaultism.
This isn't about America. The whole world was fucking nuts in 2020. We kicked it off by burning Australia to the ground and a few months later, we had so many world disasters, COVID in the forefront, that we forgot Australia.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren't as important as revenge.
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Trump is a unique magical monster. There isn't anyone else that can act the way he does. He has a personality disorder that cannot be copied by any average intelligent person. There isn't anyone else with near that type of wealth and social immaturity. No other adult has ever acted like he does that didn't have a mental disorder.
Others try to copy him but are easy to see through as they cannot bring themselves to act like he would. Ramaswamy tried but is just too mature and of normal intelligence. You need a child(with a disorder) in an adult body with 100% total and complete confidence in itself. A complete narcissist.
There has never been anyone like him before as anyone with his type of childlike behavior would have been dismissed.
There has never been anyone like him before as anyone with his type of childlike behavior would have been dismissed.
I'd like to introduce you to Andrew Jackson....
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idk, I was a kid and harry potter wasn’t real, so that kind of sucked for me
ah yes, 2000, when JKR wasn't known to be a fascist supporting shitheel.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)People who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The USA has been in a constant power struggle between monied interests and liberty since the founding days. The same party has been in control of China since before Mao was starving millions of people. A lot of european countries are literally still monarchies.
This is the normal.
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There has never been anyone like him before as anyone with his type of childlike behavior would have been dismissed.
I'd like to introduce you to Andrew Jackson....
An orphan with limited education became a successful military leader who spoke intelligently. About the opposite of Trump. Both are clearly evil yet one is childlike while the other is not.
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An orphan with limited education became a successful military leader who spoke intelligently. About the opposite of Trump. Both are clearly evil yet one is childlike while the other is not.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Andrew Jackson was a literal psychopath, and came up with the ideology of just ignoring court rulings.
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ah yes, 2000, when JKR wasn't known to be a fascist supporting shitheel.
to be fair, she probably also wasn’t at that time. money ruins people
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Andrew Jackson was a literal psychopath, and came up with the ideology of just ignoring court rulings.
Yet his personality is nothing at all like Trump. Jackson would not be able to lower himself to say the idiotic types of immature things Trump would say. Jackson truly believed in his horrid views. Trump takes whatever view he sees gets him the most attention/power/money regardless of the view and will change it as needed.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)2017-2021 was Trump, so I think it started earlier. Was it maybe more like US election season 2016 as the start of it? It's hard to pinpoint. But yes. The old US seems gone now-- Our government went from covertly corrupt to very openly so. We're becoming Russia, and its hard to imagine ever rolling it back to who we once were.
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September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren't as important as revenge.
wrote last edited by [email protected]sept 11 was the first time the republicans had the chance to seize the opportunity to put america on track for its fascist fourth reichdom fantasy.
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Its actually that between 1991 and 2001 that we merely had a full decade of relative stability in world events. Crazy shit stopped happening for a while and we have collectively imparted that things used to be "normal" on people born after 2001 but they've interpreted their own childhoods as the normal years.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I see this said about the 90s all the time but really this is not true. In the 90s there was (not an exhaustive list)
- First Gulf War
- Yugoslavia war
- Rwandan Genocide
- Oklahoma City Bombing
- Columbine Massacre
- Los Angeles Riots
- The Fall Of USSR (while on one hand a good thing it also cause so much economic decline, hunger, and excess mortality in the millions to many former bloc countries)
- Somalian War
- US 1990 recession
- 1997 Asian Financial crisis
- Dot com bubble
- Hurricane Andrew
- 1999 İzmit earthquake
It's very common when asking any person what was the best period of time for the world for their response to be a period of time their formative years were.
The reality is history is full of horrid horrid things and nostalgia is a follie that'll trick your mind.
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And that's my theory as to how Trump won a second term. A lot of people think that 2019 is the cutoff
Personally I think it was 2015 was the last normal year for the world and my life hasn't recovered from 2012. I'd actually say 2022-2024 were the most normal and stable years of my life. I got married, held a job, and built a community in a stable place.
2022-2024 were the most normal and stable years of my life.
Maybe stable for you, but the rest of the world wont leave your world alone. Defund and reallocate happened in those years. The genocide of Palestinians under a Dem president using your tax dollars started in 2023. And Ukraine was invaded in 2022.
