Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
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I'd like to ask a general question that I'm not entirely sure I can give enough context for.
When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?
Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.
When did we start caring about high schooler's opinions on a national level?
I think since forever, there's for example quite a few teenagers amongst the US Founding Fathers age when signing declaration of independence:
Alexander Hamilton 21
James Monroe 18
Nathan Hale 21
John Marshall 20
Aaron Burr 20
Charles Pinckney 18 -
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Let's also not forget how giddy he was when Paul pelosi was nearly killed over his politics.
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I dont feel bad for his family.
I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
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This is genuinely the first time in a long time that the news has brought me genuine joy. I don't give a fuck, but I am angry at him and people like him for being so shitty that it makes me feel joy at their deaths. This is on you bitch.
Have you tried therapy? Enjoying murder is horrific
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I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools
I had the same experience. It's regrettable how desensitized to violence I am these days.
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I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools
You're desensitized to violence. Not something to be proud of or encourage
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I hate how some are trying to spin this as "he was killed just for having different opinions" like no, he didn't just have "different opinions" that's grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is "worth it" because "god given rights" (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn't allow her to have an abortion
All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don't know
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
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Some people say empathy, tolerance, & inclusion are strictly moral values. However this misses that they are also a social contract lest we end up in the paradox of tolerance.
Kirk had none for those outside his in-group. Those outside his in-group owe him none in return.
You're arguing for parochial empathy over real empathy.
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I suppose you’re right. However, I have no doubts that the administration will use this to hasten their authoritarian processes .
I bet the world moves on in a week
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Fuck him.
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::: spoiler Spoiler
:::Looks like he‘s imitating that turn arrow lol
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Stupid fuckers on Australian news are going with the 'conservative activist' shit.
Nazi pig got put down like the animal he was. Activism is for the oppressed against their oppressors.
Nooo, we need more respectability politics, surely if we kowtow to fascist harder they will see the error of their ways.
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Political violence is of course bad... but as soon as you call for it, especially indirectly, you deserve whatever comes to you. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism, and there's not a lot more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorists.
What? The US negotiates with terrorists all the time
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I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
And now they don't! Weee!
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His last words
He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"
He was corrected, the number is 5.
He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)
He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot
Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.
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How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
Maybe it's time to start fighting fot our liberties, instead of feeling bad for the guys taking them away.
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Seriously? We’re living in a movie.
It gets dumber...there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.
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One was Fox News
Shocking
the other was PBS news
No, it wasn't. Bullshit.
don’t forget the 247 (/s) random politicians who condemn political violence.
Okay. That's just what they feel they have to do for appearances. Even the ones who actively wish for political violence (Trump) say that shit. No one should be surprised there.
Why do you disbelieve me? Do you think that PBS news wouldn't focus on the political beliefs of a political activist without actually mentioning what those beliefs are when eulogizing him? They talked about how he was big in the Maga movement and how he was close to trump, but they didn't mention any of his horrible views that he got flack for. When you don't mention what his actual horrible views were and instead focus on a bunch of politicians' generic condemnation of political violence, It's not exactly a stretch to think that a viewer could think he was killed for his opinions or his political stance. PBS didn't say that directly, but they don't have to for people to take that message away.
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Why do you disbelieve me? Do you think that PBS news wouldn't focus on the political beliefs of a political activist without actually mentioning what those beliefs are when eulogizing him? They talked about how he was big in the Maga movement and how he was close to trump, but they didn't mention any of his horrible views that he got flack for. When you don't mention what his actual horrible views were and instead focus on a bunch of politicians' generic condemnation of political violence, It's not exactly a stretch to think that a viewer could think he was killed for his opinions or his political stance. PBS didn't say that directly, but they don't have to for people to take that message away.
wrote last edited by [email protected]PBS is a respectable news source that I trust. Some internet rando is not.
Edit: I don't care if any of you self righteous fake intellectuals hate PBS. But I do take satisfaction in seeing that there were replies from people I blocked in the past. I don't have to waste my time reading takes designed to hurt my feelings and spread awful ideas.
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Maybe it's time to start fighting fot our liberties, instead of feeling bad for the guys taking them away.
There's a long list of people taking our liberties away, and the guy who says stupid shit is pretty far down on that list. Words matter, but they're not violence.
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I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
Neither did the children and families of Kirk's numerous victims.
