Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
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I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools
You're desensitized to violence. Not something to be proud of or encourage
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I hate how some are trying to spin this as "he was killed just for having different opinions" like no, he didn't just have "different opinions" that's grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is "worth it" because "god given rights" (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn't allow her to have an abortion
All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don't know
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
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Some people say empathy, tolerance, & inclusion are strictly moral values. However this misses that they are also a social contract lest we end up in the paradox of tolerance.
Kirk had none for those outside his in-group. Those outside his in-group owe him none in return.
You're arguing for parochial empathy over real empathy.
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I suppose you’re right. However, I have no doubts that the administration will use this to hasten their authoritarian processes .
I bet the world moves on in a week
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Fuck him.
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::: spoiler Spoiler
:::Looks like he‘s imitating that turn arrow lol
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Stupid fuckers on Australian news are going with the 'conservative activist' shit.
Nazi pig got put down like the animal he was. Activism is for the oppressed against their oppressors.
Nooo, we need more respectability politics, surely if we kowtow to fascist harder they will see the error of their ways.
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Political violence is of course bad... but as soon as you call for it, especially indirectly, you deserve whatever comes to you. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism, and there's not a lot more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorists.
What? The US negotiates with terrorists all the time
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I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
And now they don't! Weee!
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His last words
He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"
He was corrected, the number is 5.
He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)
He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot
Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.
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How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
Maybe it's time to start fighting fot our liberties, instead of feeling bad for the guys taking them away.
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Seriously? We’re living in a movie.
It gets dumber...there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.
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One was Fox News
Shocking
the other was PBS news
No, it wasn't. Bullshit.
don’t forget the 247 (/s) random politicians who condemn political violence.
Okay. That's just what they feel they have to do for appearances. Even the ones who actively wish for political violence (Trump) say that shit. No one should be surprised there.
Why do you disbelieve me? Do you think that PBS news wouldn't focus on the political beliefs of a political activist without actually mentioning what those beliefs are when eulogizing him? They talked about how he was big in the Maga movement and how he was close to trump, but they didn't mention any of his horrible views that he got flack for. When you don't mention what his actual horrible views were and instead focus on a bunch of politicians' generic condemnation of political violence, It's not exactly a stretch to think that a viewer could think he was killed for his opinions or his political stance. PBS didn't say that directly, but they don't have to for people to take that message away.
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Why do you disbelieve me? Do you think that PBS news wouldn't focus on the political beliefs of a political activist without actually mentioning what those beliefs are when eulogizing him? They talked about how he was big in the Maga movement and how he was close to trump, but they didn't mention any of his horrible views that he got flack for. When you don't mention what his actual horrible views were and instead focus on a bunch of politicians' generic condemnation of political violence, It's not exactly a stretch to think that a viewer could think he was killed for his opinions or his political stance. PBS didn't say that directly, but they don't have to for people to take that message away.
wrote last edited by [email protected]PBS is a respectable news source that I trust. Some internet rando is not.
Edit: I don't care if any of you self righteous fake intellectuals hate PBS. But I do take satisfaction in seeing that there were replies from people I blocked in the past. I don't have to waste my time reading takes designed to hurt my feelings and spread awful ideas.
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Maybe it's time to start fighting fot our liberties, instead of feeling bad for the guys taking them away.
There's a long list of people taking our liberties away, and the guy who says stupid shit is pretty far down on that list. Words matter, but they're not violence.
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I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
Neither did the children and families of Kirk's numerous victims.
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How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why.
Julius Streicher was also a human being. He was hanged at Nuremberg for the same kind of hate-mongering that Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity.
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One was Fox News
Shocking
the other was PBS news
No, it wasn't. Bullshit.
don’t forget the 247 (/s) random politicians who condemn political violence.
Okay. That's just what they feel they have to do for appearances. Even the ones who actively wish for political violence (Trump) say that shit. No one should be surprised there.
I watched PBS news tonight as well, and what AndiHutch said was pretty much right on.
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His last words
He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"
He was corrected, the number is 5.
He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)
He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot
He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.
I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They're guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.
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I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?
I guess we'll never know.
It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of "mass shootings" to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.
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What? The US negotiates with terrorists all the time
You seem to misunderstand. We don't negotiate. We supply them because they're killing people we want killed, or we blow them up.
