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Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd

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    are still feeling empathy for tolerant people outside their groups

    Apparently they are not, as exemplified by celebration of violence here, and the dislike for those arguing against violence. They feel empathy for the intolerant only, and dislike the emphatic.

    The fascist chose to break the peace treaty and so they are no longer protected by it.

    Neither are the people celebrating here, according to this logic. See the issue?

    Now tolerant people have to work together with people outside their groups

    Exactly, they should! What they're doing instead is using violence on people outside their in-group - the self-proclaimed tolerant are the intolerant just of a different tribe.

    They're them, we're we, we're better is what you're describing and is parochial empathy.

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    Exactly, they should! What they’re doing instead is using violence on people outside their in-group.

    The fascists are trying to kill people. In response your argument proposes what is best described as a kind of Stockholm syndrome. But instead of a empathy for captors your argument would have victims have empathy for their murderers. Like some kind of extreme form of rape culture. It's disgusting in my opinion.

    Neither are the people celebrating here, according to this logic. See the issue?

    Those tolerant people are feeling empathy for each other regardless of their group. They are even expressing empathy for Charlie Kirk's children. So they are following the social contract where as the fascists are not.

    Apparently they are not, as exemplified by celebration of violence here.

    Those who break the peace treaty are not protected by it. The fascists broke the peace treaty so the fascists are not protected by it.

    They feel empathy for the intolerant

    The users in this thread are still tolerant of each other, regardless of group. So the empathy they feel towards each other is for tolerant people of different groups.

    , and dislike the emphatic.

    Fascists want to kill out groups. Fascists are practicing parochial empathy if even that. Your argument seems to have no grasp of what empathy is or how to practice it in a healthy or useful way so it is not compelling. edit: typo

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      I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools

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      I saw it unintentionally and it was horrifying. It's always horrifying to see such a thing, no matter who it is.

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        The problem with this is that it will be used to increase violence against non-white cis males.

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        Like winning WWII increased violence against non-nazis?

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        • sethtaylor@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Yep. I've already said this like three times on other platforms: it's ok to be happy about this. He gave you permission. Twice, actually. The "it's worth sacrificing a person every now and then if it means we get to have guns" and this empathy thing.

          This is maybe the only time it's ok to be happy someone died.

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          This is maybe the only time it’s ok to be happy someone died.

          There was also that one guy who shot himself in an underground bunker in Berlin. Gun violence and suicide are never OK but sometimes they are.

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            I'm laughing at the song choices being posted on the music community.

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            Man, I haven't thought about Heaven 17 in decades. My favorite lyric of theirs was "brothers, sisters, we don't need that fascist groove thing". I remember liking them in the '80s but thinking that their political stance was pretty over the top and that things weren't really that bad in the world. How wrong I was.

            Fun fact: the band took their name from a fictional group that was referenced in A Clockwork Orange.

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              Golden Earring - Twilight Zone for the lyrics

              "Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?
              Soon, you will come to know when the bullet hits the bone"

              Utah Saints - Something Good, for the hilarious, to me, coincidence between the song title, the band name and the location of the event

              *NSYNC - Bye Bye Bye, need I say more

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              U2 - Bullet the Blue Sky

              You plant a demon seed
              You raise a flower of fire

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                I prefer thots to tots.

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                  I remember every single time someone they didn't like died. They would rejoice in the most vile manner imaginable. Fuck them.

                  I am betting that Kirk's killer was a fellow conservative who found him too soft and not hard right enough.

                  Or... maybe it was the same guy who killed Brian Thompson... because Luigi is innocent.

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                    Not wearing a helmet, bullet-proof vest and all and arguing against gun control.

                    He was asking to be shot...

                    /s obvsly ffs

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                      I'd like to ask a general question that I'm not entirely sure I can give enough context for.

                      When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?

                      Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.

                      When did we start caring about high schooler's opinions on a national level?

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                      I see your point, but Asimov was born in 1920 and Foundation, arguably his greatest work, came out in 1951 when he was 31, the same age numbnuts was. "Barely out of highschool" just doesn't apply and frankly feels like a disingenuous attempt to disparage youth. Age unfortunately has very little to do with stupid opinions.

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                        How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know

                        At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.

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                        People don't sympathize with their trash when it ends up in landfill.

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                          No empathy for this scum ❤

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                            How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know

                            At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.

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                            No he wasn't a human being, he was a fascist. The two are mutually exclusive. The world is a better place now that he's not in it and that's worth celebrating.

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                              No empathy for this scum ❤

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                              How touching! Just like how he would've wanted!

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                                The problem with this is that it will be used to increase violence against non-white cis males.

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                                Guess how Nazis were defeated in WW2...

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                                  I'm not going to celebrate, I simply don't care that karma struck him so hard.

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                                    I saw it unintentionally and it was horrifying. It's always horrifying to see such a thing, no matter who it is.

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                                    Meh, /b/ broke me a long time ago

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                                      Yep. I've already said this like three times on other platforms: it's ok to be happy about this. He gave you permission. Twice, actually. The "it's worth sacrificing a person every now and then if it means we get to have guns" and this empathy thing.

                                      This is maybe the only time it's ok to be happy someone died.

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                                      You could also be happy in Kim Jong Un dies... maybe Putin?

                                      I always wonder where the cut off is, how evil does someone have to be for society to accept their death with gladness?

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                                        I wonder if we will get a new wave of users as reddit has another ban wave for people laughing at this cunts neck exploding.

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                                        Most likely given that we should know imperial lackey spez Reddit uses a form of AI-powered profiling on users for mods, data based mainly on personal content and types of subreddits visited.

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                                          good riddance.

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