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    Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

    I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

    Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

    Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

    EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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    It's a legal thing that makes someone liable for it because they live in a capitalist society.. Which is dumb. The entire economic chain is built by and for capitalism. For some people to capitalise and excrete on the planet. Let people scream capitalism in anger if they want. It has killed more than all religions and posing now as a threat to the continued existence of humanity. I don't think it deserves any kind of slack

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      When I worked at a Hollywood Video (so a long time ago) we were told we had to discard expired concession products because of chargebacks. Part of the chargeback process was destroying the product because the business was getting credit for it from the supplier/manufacturer.

      I believe if you process it as a chargeback and donate it, you'd be committing fraud.

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      You'd also be committing something nice for hungry people. Depends on what you want to commit to honestly

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        You'd also be committing something nice for hungry people. Depends on what you want to commit to honestly

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        Yep, and you could shoplift food from a grocery store and donate it, or cheat on your taxes and use the extra money to buy food to donate, or donate the money directly.

        Personally, I think it would be better to change the system. Perhaps a program that incentivizes a business to donate the food instead of charging it back or incentivizing the supplier/manufacturer to require anything usable they get a chargeback for from a business be donated or destroyed.

        People shouldn't have to forced to choose between doing the moral thing or the legal thing.

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          It's so stupid that they waste it like that. I can only assume that somebody didn't want to be bothered with donating it to a food bank. Seriously though, the amount of time it would take to uncap and pour all that out as opposed to making a couple phone calls. SMH

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          It's not even their product if it works the same everywhere as it does around me. Home depot stores are part of bottle distribution routes and a sales person or merchandiser will handle the stock.

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          • S [email protected]

            Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

            I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

            Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

            Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

            EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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            Got any examples on the comm idea? You made me curious

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              One of the communities I miss from reddit is r/ZeroWaste

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              We got you covered: [email protected]

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              • S [email protected]

                Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

                I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

                Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

                Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

                EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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                Acting like capitalism is no part of this and what drives the "legal thing" is a bit naive.

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                  Got any examples on the comm idea? You made me curious

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                  Was only looking for a good name for the comm. I can go from there. 🙂

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                    So now the salt is full of microplastics? Well, so am I. Come on in and join the rest.

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                    One of us! One of us!

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                      Seriously, the reason for the expiration date is pure salt draws moisture even though packaged and starts to cake. Most people don't want lumpy salt, thus the expiration date.

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                        For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                        Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                        But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                        or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                        • T [email protected]

                          For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                          Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                          But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                          or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                          This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                            Was it sold as pure NaCl? Probably not...

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                            Would be cooler if it was.

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                            • spoopy@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                              This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                              I wish I knew every law in every country like you.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

                                I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

                                Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

                                Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

                                EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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                                I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration.

                                Liquids in plastic bottles go bad after a while due to the plastic leeching. This was probably the right call.

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                                  For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                                  Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                                  But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                                  or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                                  In some cases, like water, it's more about when the plastic will start noticeably altering the taste and properties of the food

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                                    Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                                    But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                                    or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                                    In Germany, the best before date is not required for things like spices, and other food that will still be consumable even decades after packaging.

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                                      One of us! One of us!

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                                      Gooble Gobble!

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                                      • spoopy@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                                        omgg hi hoshino

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                                          100% uncontaminated

                                          IT'S PINK! It's definitely contaminated. Maybe it's got other things things you want in there, but that's still contamination. It's not pure salt.

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                                          It's not cool to call homosexual salt "contaminated"

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