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    Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

    I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

    Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

    Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

    EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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    Acting like capitalism is no part of this and what drives the "legal thing" is a bit naive.

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      Got any examples on the comm idea? You made me curious

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      Was only looking for a good name for the comm. I can go from there. 🙂

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        So now the salt is full of microplastics? Well, so am I. Come on in and join the rest.

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        One of us! One of us!

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          Seriously, the reason for the expiration date is pure salt draws moisture even though packaged and starts to cake. Most people don't want lumpy salt, thus the expiration date.

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            For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

            Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

            But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
            or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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            • T [email protected]

              For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

              Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

              But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
              or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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              This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                Was it sold as pure NaCl? Probably not...

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                Would be cooler if it was.

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                • spoopy@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                  I wish I knew every law in every country like you.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

                    I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

                    Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

                    Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

                    EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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                    I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration.

                    Liquids in plastic bottles go bad after a while due to the plastic leeching. This was probably the right call.

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                      For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                      Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                      But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                      or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                      In some cases, like water, it's more about when the plastic will start noticeably altering the taste and properties of the food

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                        For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                        Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                        But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                        or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                        In Germany, the best before date is not required for things like spices, and other food that will still be consumable even decades after packaging.

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                          One of us! One of us!

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                          Gooble Gobble!

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                          • spoopy@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            This isn't true, the best by dates are not regulated by law. They are entirely voluntary.

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                            omgg hi hoshino

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                              100% uncontaminated

                              IT'S PINK! It's definitely contaminated. Maybe it's got other things things you want in there, but that's still contamination. It's not pure salt.

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                              It's not cool to call homosexual salt "contaminated"

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                                100% uncontaminated

                                IT'S PINK! It's definitely contaminated. Maybe it's got other things things you want in there, but that's still contamination. It's not pure salt.

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                                But at least it doesn't have any chemicals. /s

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  Idiots will throw this in the trash. Businesses will as well.

                                  I watch a couple of dude's at Lowe's uncapping and draining several hundred bottles of Powerade because they were past expiration. Working retail really got me educated in all the waste in our system. (Someone will scream, "caPiTaLisM!". No, it's a legal/liability thing. And it's dumb.)

                                  Purchase a thing. Any thing. See all the plastic you brought home? There was 2-3x that much in delivering it to you before you took it off the shelf.

                                  Been wanting to start a comm on "stop buying shit, here are alternatives". Taking votes for names. I could spend a week posting things I've actually done.

                                  EDIT: Should note: Trashing goods = tax write off. That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount". Yes, it's cheaper to throw shit away than to sell, even at a deep discount.

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                                  That's a money saver vs. "donated" or "sold at discount".

                                  Food banks that I'm familiar with won't distribute expired food because it's a liability. Of course there is a big difference between "expired" salt and meat, but it's safer for them to have a blanket policy than count on the workers' judgement.

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                                  • realfknnito@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    Hilariously best by dates aren't actually enforced by any agency or department so I don't believe anyone is legally obligated to discard it. The dates are a best guess by manufacturers, the determination if something is actually spoiled is up to the end user.

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                                    It could be a liability thing though. An organization that sells expired product might be in for bigger judgements if something does happen.

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                                      Amazing, Trump was right, they were trading in salt rocks.

                                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sP5ElraFHHE (25s)

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                                        It could be a liability thing though. An organization that sells expired product might be in for bigger judgements if something does happen.

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                                        But who determines if it's expired? Obviously if they're a resteraunt they have their own guidelines in order to adhere to the heath department, but what happens to goods with no best by date? The most I could see happening to an establishment is the being compelled to void the transaction or replace the item under some kind of anti scam ordinance.

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                                          For some stupid shit reason, there is a legal limit for "best before" dates like that. You are not allowed to put a best before date that is more than IIRC three years after packaging.

                                          Salt is the number one victim of this stupidity by far, if packaged properly it will still be usable salt a million years in the future.

                                          But some other food items are definitely good after more than three years. Some tinned goods,
                                          or rice, pasta, dried legumes, honey, sugar.

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                                          That's why EU or at least Finland at least used to have separate labels; "best before" and "use by".

                                          One was like "this might lose some quality after the date" and one is "please don't eat it, it might be dangerous".

                                          Although the latter was still always erred on the sage side. Whereas grandma dismissed the bunch and just sliced the mold off the cheese and ate what was underneath. And it wasn't blue cheese — originally.

                                          And rue the day if I threw out old milk instead of letting her make some home made cheese or smth.

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