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AI chatbots unable to accurately summarise news, BBC finds

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    Summary of the Article

    Title: AI chatbots unable to accurately summarise news, BBC finds
    Date: February 11, 2025 (Published 3 hours ago)
    Author: Imran Rahman-Jones, Technology Reporter

    Key Findings:

    The BBC conducted a study on four major AI chatbots—OpenAI's ChatGPT, Microsoft's Copilot, Google's Gemini, and Perplexity AI—to assess their ability to accurately summarize news content. The findings revealed significant inaccuracies and distortions in the chatbots' summaries, raising concerns about misinformation.

    51% of AI-generated summaries contained significant issues.

    19% of responses citing BBC content included factual errors, such as incorrect dates, numbers, or statements.

    The AI chatbots struggled to differentiate between fact and opinion, often editorializing or omitting crucial context.

    Examples of AI-generated misinformation:

    Gemini falsely stated that the NHS does not recommend vaping as a smoking cessation aid.

    ChatGPT and Copilot claimed Rishi Sunak and Nicola Sturgeon were still in office after they had stepped down.

    Perplexity AI misquoted BBC News on the Middle East conflict, saying Iran initially showed "restraint" and that Israel’s actions were "aggressive"—misrepresenting the original reporting.

    BBC's Response & Call for Change:

    Deborah Turness, CEO of BBC News and Current Affairs, warned of the risks posed by AI-generated misinformation and called on AI companies to take action. She urged developers to "pull back" their AI news summarization features, citing Apple's decision to pause its AI news summaries after complaints from the BBC.

    The BBC briefly allowed AI bots access to its site for testing in December 2024 but generally blocks them. It now seeks to work with AI companies to improve accuracy while ensuring publishers maintain control over their content.

    AI Companies' Response:

    OpenAI stated that it aims to support publishers by improving citation accuracy and respecting content restrictions via tools like robots.txt (which allows websites to block AI bots).

    The other companies (Microsoft, Google, Perplexity) have not yet commented on the BBC’s findings.

    Conclusion:

    The BBC’s research underscores serious reliability issues in AI-generated news summaries, with some models performing worse than others. Microsoft’s Copilot and Google’s Gemini had more significant accuracy problems compared to OpenAI’s ChatGPT and Perplexity. The study raises concerns about the potential real-world harm caused by AI misinformation and emphasizes the need for AI developers to improve transparency and accountability in news summarization.

    It's not that bad. I don't really use it for this so maybe I got lucky but saying they are unable to seems like a stretch.

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    It is stated as 51% problematic, so maybe your coin flip was successful this time.

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      A website with zero information, and barely anything on their huggingface page. What’s exciting about this?

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      Whoops, yeah, should have linked the blog.

      I didn't want to link the individual models because I'm not sure hybrid or pure transformers is better?

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        Nonsense, I use it a ton for science and engineering, it saves me SO much time!

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        Do you blindly trust the output or is it just a convenience and you can spot when there's something wrong? Because I really hope you don't rely on it.

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          Fuckin news!

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            Do you blindly trust the output or is it just a convenience and you can spot when there's something wrong? Because I really hope you don't rely on it.

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            How could I blindly trust anything in this context?

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              Yes, I think it would be naive to expect humans to design something capable of what humans are not.

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              We do that all the time. It's kind of humanity's thing. I can't run 60mph, but my car sure can.

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                I tried using it to spit ball ideas for my DMing. I was running a campaign set in a real life location known for a specific thing. Even if I told it to not include that thing, it would still shoe horn it in random spots. It quickly became absolutely useless once I didn't need that thing included

                Sorry for being vague, I just didn't want to post my home town on here

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                You can say Space Needle. We get it.

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                  Turns out, spitting out words when you don't know what anything means or what "means" means is bad, mmmmkay.

                  It got journalists who were relevant experts in the subject of the article to rate the quality of answers from the AI assistants.

                  It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                  Additionally, 19% of AI answers which cited BBC content introduced factual errors, such as incorrect factual statements, numbers and dates.

                  Introduced factual errors

                  Yeah that's . . . that's bad. As in, not good. As in - it will never be good. With a lot of work and grinding it might be "okay enough" for some tasks some day. That'll be another 200 Billion please.

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                    We do that all the time. It's kind of humanity's thing. I can't run 60mph, but my car sure can.

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                    Qualitatively.

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                      Qualitatively.

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                      That response doesn't make sense. Please clarify.

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                        What temperature and sampling settings? Which models?

                        I've noticed that the AI giants seem to be encouraging “AI ignorance,” as they just want you to use their stupid subscription app without questioning it, instead of understanding how the tools works under the hood. They also default to bad, cheap models.

                        I find my local thinking models (like QwQ or Deepseek 32B) are quite good at summarization at a low temperature, which is not what these UIs default to. Same with “affordable” API models (like base Deepseek). But small Gemini/OpenAI API models are crap, especially with default sampling, and Gemini 2.0 in particular seems to have regressed.

                        My point is that LLMs as locally hosted tools are neat, but how corporations present them as magic cloud oracles is like everything wrong with tech enshittification in one package.

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                        They were actually really vague about the details. The paper itself says they used GPT-4o for ChatGPT, but apparently they didnt even note what versions of the other models were used.

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                          Whoops, yeah, should have linked the blog.

                          I didn't want to link the individual models because I'm not sure hybrid or pure transformers is better?

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                          Looks pretty interesting, thanks for sharing it

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                            Turns out, spitting out words when you don't know what anything means or what "means" means is bad, mmmmkay.

                            It got journalists who were relevant experts in the subject of the article to rate the quality of answers from the AI assistants.

                            It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                            Additionally, 19% of AI answers which cited BBC content introduced factual errors, such as incorrect factual statements, numbers and dates.

                            Introduced factual errors

                            Yeah that's . . . that's bad. As in, not good. As in - it will never be good. With a lot of work and grinding it might be "okay enough" for some tasks some day. That'll be another 200 Billion please.

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                            Is it worse than the current system of editors making shitty click bait titles?

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                              Turns out, spitting out words when you don't know what anything means or what "means" means is bad, mmmmkay.

                              It got journalists who were relevant experts in the subject of the article to rate the quality of answers from the AI assistants.

                              It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                              Additionally, 19% of AI answers which cited BBC content introduced factual errors, such as incorrect factual statements, numbers and dates.

                              Introduced factual errors

                              Yeah that's . . . that's bad. As in, not good. As in - it will never be good. With a lot of work and grinding it might be "okay enough" for some tasks some day. That'll be another 200 Billion please.

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                              Do you dislike ai?

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                                Turns out, spitting out words when you don't know what anything means or what "means" means is bad, mmmmkay.

                                It got journalists who were relevant experts in the subject of the article to rate the quality of answers from the AI assistants.

                                It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                                Additionally, 19% of AI answers which cited BBC content introduced factual errors, such as incorrect factual statements, numbers and dates.

                                Introduced factual errors

                                Yeah that's . . . that's bad. As in, not good. As in - it will never be good. With a lot of work and grinding it might be "okay enough" for some tasks some day. That'll be another 200 Billion please.

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                                alternatively: 49% had no significant issues and 81% had no factual errors, it's not perfect but it's cheap quick and easy.

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                                  You don't say.

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                                    alternatively: 49% had no significant issues and 81% had no factual errors, it's not perfect but it's cheap quick and easy.

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                                    It's easy, it's quick, and it's free: pouring river water in your socks.
                                    Fortunately, there are other possible criteria.

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                                      Funny, I find the BBC unable to accurately convey the news

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                                      Dunno why you're being downvoted. If you're wanting a somewhat right-wing, pro-establishment, slightly superficial take on the news, mixed in with lots of "celebrity" frippery, then the BBC have got you covered. Their chairmen have historically been a list of old Tories, but that has never stopped the Tory party of accusing their news of being "left leaning" when it's blatantly not.

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                                        That response doesn't make sense. Please clarify.

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                                        A human can move, a car can move. a human can't move with such speed, a car can. The former is qualitative difference how I meant it, the latter quantitative.

                                        Anyway, that's how I used those words.

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                                          Turns out, spitting out words when you don't know what anything means or what "means" means is bad, mmmmkay.

                                          It got journalists who were relevant experts in the subject of the article to rate the quality of answers from the AI assistants.

                                          It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                                          Additionally, 19% of AI answers which cited BBC content introduced factual errors, such as incorrect factual statements, numbers and dates.

                                          Introduced factual errors

                                          Yeah that's . . . that's bad. As in, not good. As in - it will never be good. With a lot of work and grinding it might be "okay enough" for some tasks some day. That'll be another 200 Billion please.

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                                          It found 51% of all AI answers to questions about the news were judged to have significant issues of some form.

                                          How good are the human answers? I mean, I expect that an AI's error rate is currently higher than an "expert" in their field.

                                          But I'd guess the AI is quite a bit better than, say, the average Republican.

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