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A Completely Natural Conversation in the NYC Reddit

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    Imposter among us

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    • ambiguousprops@lemmy.todayA [email protected]

      Your experience isn't the same as everyone else's, that's my point. Just because you like to use a chunk of your free time to shop doesn't mean everyone else does. Many in your situation would prefer to use that time at home with their kids (where you can also avoid technology after ordering if you desire, btw)

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      Right, what I’m pushing back against are the people in this thread who are implying it’s impossible to find time to both buy food and sleep, not people like you who are saying “I’d rather trade my money to buy additional time for leisure”, which is perfectly reasonable.

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

        I use the em-dash a lot. It's not just about the presence of one, the issue is that LLMs know they exist but don't know where they go. It's sort of like a semicolon, which goes where neither a comma nor a period feel right. An em-dashes simply goes where neither comma nor period nor semicolon feels right

        Edit: I should clarify, that's simply how I use them. I'm not smart enough with words to know stuff like "parenthetical clauses" or w/e. Point being, AI just throws them in like they're sentence enhancers

        On my keyboard, I just click the button on the bottom left to see punctuation, and then long-press the hyphen

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        Single em dashes can almost always be used interchangeably with semicolons—they typically separate independent clauses without a conjunction.

        Paired em dashes—used to demarcate parenthetical expressions—can be replaced by commas, but not by semicolons.

        It has less to do with what feels right and more to do with the mechanics of the sentence. There is a good bit of wiggle room, figuratively speaking, in deciding whether to use commas or paired em dashes—likewise, whether to use a single em dash or a semicolon is almost entirely a stylistic choice. But I feel like the way you explained it is a bit misleading to people still learning the difference.

        An em dash can also be used to delineate an abrupt break in the direction or structure of a sentence or dialogue in a way that commas or semicolons simply—fuck, I just shit my pants.

        Not trying to be a pedant, just sharing what I've learned over the years.

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        • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

          I use the em-dash a lot. It's not just about the presence of one, the issue is that LLMs know they exist but don't know where they go. It's sort of like a semicolon, which goes where neither a comma nor a period feel right. An em-dashes simply goes where neither comma nor period nor semicolon feels right

          Edit: I should clarify, that's simply how I use them. I'm not smart enough with words to know stuff like "parenthetical clauses" or w/e. Point being, AI just throws them in like they're sentence enhancers

          On my keyboard, I just click the button on the bottom left to see punctuation, and then long-press the hyphen

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          i always thought that em-dashes were used instead of commas whenever

          1. your sentence already has too many commas, or
          2. you want to be fancy
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            Nah grocery stores fucking suck. You can go inside and walk around for an hour in the cold, surrounded by people, squinting through the shitty florescent light, searching for a thing they may not have.

            I will sit in my bed, comfortable and unbothered, and have shit sent to me. This is worth $5 - $10 or whatever.

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            you might consider talking to a medical professional because being that uncomfortable is not normal..

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              fleet of accounts

              I like the use of the term "fleet" in this context, bc it brings to mind the Battle of Midway but re-done with bots online.

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              Who's Yamamoto and Nimitz in this situation?

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                you might consider talking to a medical professional because being that uncomfortable is not normal..

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                two steps ahead of you lol

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                  Making extensive use of food delivery services is a trait i unapologetically use to filter people out of my life. (Unless they have medical reasons...)

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                  My mom makes extensive use of a good delivery service. It's called me

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                    Making sense tbh.

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                    Kinda wanna embrace our AI overlords ngl.

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                      I only go to Whole Foods for a few specific stuff items that I can't get elsewhere due to food allergies. There is no way they are the cheapest place to get groceries.

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                        I was just reminding a discussion with a guy about Reddit, who thinks Reddit is getting close to the real dead internet theory, just bots talkimg about whatever.

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                        I've definitely had moments where I found myself in some random r/ and realized I wasn't sure if this was bot spam or actual humans. It's pretty dissociating to actually fully internalize the dead Internet theory.

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                          You know, use of long dash is the same kind of tell as an image having 6 fingers. Not impossible to find in human interactions but generally very rare, especially in online conversation. (I'm not even sure if my phone can do a long dash, just these fellows: ---).

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                          Emdashes might also be a sign that the commenter is a nerd

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                            Who's Yamamoto and Nimitz in this situation?

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                            Well let's see... first we gotta figure out the analogy:

                            • carriers = posts promoting a product
                            • carrier escorts = posts commenting on and upvoting the "carrier" post
                            • torpedos/dive-bombs = bot-delivered replies that disparage "carrier" posts. They "hit" if they get highly upvoted
                            • fighters = bots that downvote carrier-fleet posts and upvote torpedo/dive-bomb replies
                            • carrier "screen" fighters = bots that post attacks on enemy fighters and munitions
                            • carrier AA fire = bots that downvote attacks by enemy fighter bots

                            The analogy is still a little clumsy... are "carriers" posts, or are they the bots that make the posts? etc. But a Midway-like battle would involve a modest but strategically-positioned product-promoting community that is about to be surprised-attacked by a rival, who will make several posts disparaging the product. But the attack is identified through corporate espionage. The posts are hard to find, so the "fighters" have to search for them but ultimately they do, and after fierce up- and down-voting, the attacking posts are deeply downvoted.

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                              You know, use of long dash is the same kind of tell as an image having 6 fingers. Not impossible to find in human interactions but generally very rare, especially in online conversation. (I'm not even sure if my phone can do a long dash, just these fellows: ---).

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                              This is a bad take. I use em dashes if I feel it's called for. It's just proper grammar. We probably shouldn't be making people dumb down the way they write so as to not be mistaken for AI.

                              Read some books, you'll see that it's used all of the time.

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                                Emdashes might also be a sign that the commenter is a nerd

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                                Yeah, or just someone that has read books before...

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                                  It used to make sense during the COVID lockdowns, but at least where I live most stores stopped offering that service soon after the pandemic

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                                  I used it during the worst of covid, especially because where I lived had multiple accounts of people being assaulted for wearing a mask. I had no desire to have to fight some disease spreading moron just so I could get groceries.

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                                    I guess I don't really understand the purpose, here... You don't like having rich friends?

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                                    What do you people think "rich" means?

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                                    • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                                      it's such a fucking baffling concept to me, i don't even understand ordering groceries from the fucking grocery store, just go there and buy the stuff

                                      ordering stuff just.. isn't better..
                                      there's no benefit unless you simply cannot buy the thing in a nearby store.

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                                      What do you mean there's no benefit? The entire concept is beneficial, which is why it's often so goddamn expensive. It's 100% convenience.

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                                      • deathray5@lemmynsfw.comD [email protected]

                                        I'm always worried about this whenever I talk about the fairphone or framework laptop but I also sell Linux like a merchant so I think people get I'm just a nerd

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                                        TBF those companies don’t have the budget for a astroturfing bot campaign, or at least can’t afford the PR hit.

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                                          Yeah, or just someone that has read books before...

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                                          same thing, nerd

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