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  • B [email protected]

    A LinkedIn alternative, anyone?

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    But will it have the lunatics and toxic positivity?

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      I haven't heard of it yet but it's very interesting! link for those who struggle to find it among german search results

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      Does it have categorization like eBay?

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        I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

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        Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

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          I heard that it was one of the earliest Fediverse projects. It just hadn't surged in popularity like Mastodon and Lemmy had after the Twitter and Reddit exodus.

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          I actually think the facebook format is great, and I miss it despite having NO desire to use anything meta owns.

          Friendica has the unenviable position of trying to convince people what sucked about facebook was not inherent to the format of social network.

          I need to try it out!

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            Matrix still lacks some signature fearures of discord that its users like, like one-click voice channels (I heard Element is experimenting with it with video) and guild/channel-level roles. role based access control is being planned for a long time, but it doesn't really go forward unfortunately

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            I mean, loops is missing a lot too. Matrix is quite there already.

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              We should stop being naive. Immersing ourselves as a society into facebook and twitter significantly contributed to the shit situation we are in now. Going to Signal seems like a short term solution. We should have some idea where to go on the long term.

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              Facebook and twitter are not the same as signal. The signal protocol is a free open source project, that WhatsApp, Signal, and many other use. It secures the data so that whatever servers they are stored on, the company storing it does not know what the texts say. Facebook and Twitter are all about getting as much data as possible. Even though WhatsApp uses the signal protocol, they still collect all metadata with the texts (which is really what they want anyway). Moving to open source project is absolutely the long term goal to get out of this shit hole.

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              • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                So, is Matrix like halfway between Whatsapp and Discord? I downloaded it and I still don't know much about it. I felt like it was more Whatsapp-like

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                I’ve been wanting to test audio and video calls to see if I can use to play TTRPG instead of relying on discord. Sabe issue though, no one to test with. Let me know if you want to test either.

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                • csm10495@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                  How is signal considered part of the fediverse?

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                  It's not federated, but it is an open source secure texting alternative.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    SimpleX is better, you don't even need a phone number.

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                    SimpleX is cool, but fails the "my grandmother can use it" requirement. Signal has the huge benefit that is just as easy as WhatsApp. With Simplex you have to invite each of your friends individually.

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                      Mastodon ❌

                      Bluesky ✅

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                      Bluesky is a for profit company. Not the way to go.

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                        It's also a pretty rough experience tbh. It took about 2 days for me to gain access after signing up. Only usable via the Android sdk or iOS beta app. The infrastructure just isn't there yet.

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                        Do you mean the android apk?

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                        • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                          yo, fuck discord, this is by far the most important one to emulate for me.

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                          • icedterminal@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            TeamSpeak is doing an overhaul to be similar to Discord. You can self host.

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                            oh cool!

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                              I would say it's a step by step work. I have moved my family from Whatsapp to Signal years ago and then to Matrix. I forced them in some way but I just said "sorry if you want to keep contact we will have to find another app, I don't accept Whatsapp ToS." It took some time but my close family and friends are there and I regularly get someone to join, friend or family. It's still close circle but it's also a good thing.
                              Same went with work. Colleagues wanted to do a whatsapp group for a project and I basically said "No, best I can do is Signal." and they went with it.

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                              I stopped with Signal. Getting coworkers/family to move to signal was enough work, but I also trust the signal protocol enough to use a centralized service

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Loops really seems like it sucks. You can't see how long any video is, there's no way to thumb down really bad videos, and about 80% of all the videos seem like "really bad videos". I never even used tik tok, but im sure it wasn't content similar or it never would have gotten popular.

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                                It’s for short form videos, it’s mimicking its competitors UX right now (namely YouTube shorts, Instagram reels and TikTok). Neither has thumb down or show you how long a video is.

                                As for content… the users generate content, not the software. So… how many good videos have you uploaded?

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                                  I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

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                                  Let’s say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case?

                                  Definitely no. Russian government already is aggressively prosecuting dissidents and you can't join Signal there. I don't know whether it's due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation. At least I wasn't able to. I don't see the USA being that far off with all the recent TikTok drama.

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                                    I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

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                                    Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know?

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                                    • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                                      guilded could be consider one but really matrix and revolt are the privacy ones

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        And that makes it a Facebook replacement how? Facebook is terrible and the only reason I ever go there is to check in on people I know. I don’t understand Friendica at all. I can get all the social interaction I need from Mastodon, BlueSky and Lemmy if my goal isn’t people I know and just like minded people.

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                                        Funny, when Facebook started there was almost no one I knew there either. It was its doom. It crashed and burned before it even got off the ground. Orkut still reigns supreme.

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                                          Blasted out on my dead social media accounts. Except shitter, which I actually deleted lol

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