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  • callyral@pawb.socialC [email protected]

    Leaks more metadata? What does that mean?

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    sender, recipient, chatroom, what kind of event you sent (message, emoji, reaction, vote), if you responded to a message, room privilege changes, etc

    but it's a question how big of a problem is that. they want to tackle it in the future, but that's far away for now I think

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    • P [email protected]

      Hidden inside the whatsapp->signal box in tiny faint font. I was wondering why there isn't a big "Discord -> Matrix"

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      Matrix still lacks some signature fearures of discord that its users like, like one-click voice channels (I heard Element is experimenting with it with video) and guild/channel-level roles. role based access control is being planned for a long time, but it doesn't really go forward unfortunately

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      • S [email protected]

        “I’m sick of apps owned by American oligarchs who want to steal my data! This app owned by Chinese oligarchs will surely be a better experience”

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        I saw someone suggest Yandex as a Google substitute in de-Google thread recently...lol

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        • kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksK [email protected]

          Matrix is […] distributed […].

          It is? How so?

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          Matrix servers keep a copy of any remote room an account on the server has joined, and it’s possible to recreate a room from the copies held on different servers. There are more details I don’t remember, but at a high level that’s how it’s distributed.

          Storing messages of remote rooms in addition to local rooms is why people complain about the storage requirements of Matrix servers. They don’t realize it’s distributed.

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            Loop.video is “currently not accepting new members”.

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            It's also a pretty rough experience tbh. It took about 2 days for me to gain access after signing up. Only usable via the Android sdk or iOS beta app. The infrastructure just isn't there yet.

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            • A [email protected]

              I wish Boost understood the collapsible spoilers.

              On my client, it's all expanded and I see all the formatting characters. It looks/works great in a browser though.

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              I wish Boost understood the collapsible spoilers.

              On my client, it’s all expanded and I see all the formatting characters.

              Ah dang, that's good to know (though I'm not sure what to do as an alternative) — I was unaware that the collapsible spoilers weren't supported on Boost. I guess that means that Lemmy's markdown formatting hasn't entirely been standardized across the service. I personally have encountered some inconsistency on the Tesseract UI with CommonMark Autolink ^[2]^ formatting where the autolinks don't even render ^[1]^.

              ::: spoiler References

              1. "Kalcifer" @[email protected]. To: ["Happy #GlobalSwitchDay". @[email protected]. "Fediverse" [email protected]. Tesseract. sh.itjust.works. Published: 2025-02-01T07:08:40Z. Accessed: 2025-02-02T04:40Z. https://tesh.itjust.works/post/sh.itjust.works/32046509.]. Published: 2025-02-01T09:20:14Z. Accessed: 2025-02-02T04:42Z. https://sh.itjust.works/post/32046509/16425699.
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                  Signal isn't federated ^[1][2][3.1]^; it's decentralized ^[1][2][3.2]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized. 
                  
                  ::: spoiler References
                  1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. <https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server>.
                     - This is the source code for the server that Signal uses.
                  2. "Signal (software)". Wikipedia. Published: 2025-01-06T09:34Z. Accessed: 2025-02-1T09:30Z. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)>.
                     - ¶"Architecture". ¶"Servers".
                       > Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Signal Messenger. In addition to routing Signal's messages, the servers also facilitate the discovery of contacts who are also registered Signal users and the automatic exchange of users' public keys. […]
                  3. "Reflections: The ecosystem is moving". moxie0. Signal Blog. Published: 2016-05-10. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:40Z.  <https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/>.
                     1. ¶5. to ¶"Stuck in time". ¶3-6
                        > One of the controversial things we did with Signal early on was to build it as an unfederated service. Nothing about any of the protocols we’ve developed requires centralization; it’s entirely possible to build a federated Signal Protocol-based messenger, but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all. […] [interoperable protocols] [have] taken us pretty far, but it’s undeniable that once you federate your protocol, it becomes very difficult to make changes. And right now, at the application level, things that stand still don’t fare very well in a world where the ecosystem is moving. […] Early on, I thought we’d federate Signal once its velocity had subsided. Now I realize that things will probably never slow down, and if anything the velocity of the entire landscape seems to be steadily increasing.
                     2. ¶"Stuck in time". "Federation and control". ¶6.
                        > An open source infrastructure for a centralized network now provides almost the same level of control as federated protocols, without giving up the ability to adapt. If a centralized provider with an open source infrastructure ever makes horrible changes, those that disagree have the software they need to run their own alternative instead. It may not be as beautiful as federation, but at this point it seems that it will have to do.
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                  • In the rendered text there are no links; however, there should be links at the end, as is shown by the CommonMark autolinks in the raw text.
              2. "CommonMark Spec". John MacFarlane. CommonMark. Version: 0.31.2. Published: 2024-01-28. Accessed: 2025-02-02T04:51Z. https://spec.commonmark.org/0.31.2/#uri-autolink.
                • §6.5 "Autolinks". ¶2.

                  A URI autolink consists of <, followed by an absolute URI followed by >. It is parsed as a link to the URI, with the URI as the link’s label.
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              • V [email protected]

                Same with Sync, unfortunately.

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                Dang 😕. See my comment for a related response.

                I recommend reporting the bug to the Sync devs to fix their Markdown formatting to improve feature compatibility between them and the Lemmy UI.

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                • G [email protected]

                  Is there only one website?

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                  At this moment, yes! I'll operate an instance as soon as the code is public.

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                  • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                    I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                    Revolt is the way.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      That person isn’t fucking around.

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                      I take the issue of misinformation seriously.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        Matrix servers keep a copy of any remote room an account on the server has joined, and it’s possible to recreate a room from the copies held on different servers. There are more details I don’t remember, but at a high level that’s how it’s distributed.

                        Storing messages of remote rooms in addition to local rooms is why people complain about the storage requirements of Matrix servers. They don’t realize it’s distributed.

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                        Interesting — I hadn't considered it that way.

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                        • zerocool@slrpnk.netZ [email protected]

                          For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.

                          https://bookwyrm.social/about

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                          Folks should also check out neodb.social . it's good reads, letterboxd, and steam reviews all in one.

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                          • A [email protected]

                            This doesn't help.

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                            Help with what?

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                              Are any of these actually good?

                              I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                instead of switching ive mostly just been ditching entirely. I need less time interacting with internet people.

                                literally the only thing on this list im still using is facebook messenger, for my work colleagues. and youtube. everything else ive migrated (reddit-lemmy), or abandoned and torched

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                                Only ones I use are YouTube and fb marketplace because Craigslist is totally dead here, but it's from an alt account I've never used for anything at all.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  But Revolt isn't federated is it? It wouldn't fit here any more than signal.

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                                  Yes, it isn't federated, but you can host your own server for your community. That way you are independent of any central organization.

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                                    Fediverse is awesome!!

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      Are any of these actually good?

                                      I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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                                      People only move to Bluesky because they don't want to change their thinking (picking instances is hard!) and keep using "Twitter".

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Friendica seems like a new thing? No apps for that yet either

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                                        Bookface replicates the Facebook UI in Friendica 🙂

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                                        • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

                                          Originally it was supposed to be ActivityPub based, but recently the posted something about it being for XMPP, Matrix and IRC as well 🤷‍♂️ Maybe they decided to fork Pidgin 😂

                                          IMHO Sup. isn't going to happen. They will have their hands more than full with Pixelfed's new popularity and maybe Loops.

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                                          Multi-protocol would be awesome, hopefully down the line it'll come back around to adding some basic AP integration.

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