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My car is pretty old and doesn't have any screens.

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    My car is pretty old and doesn't have any screens. I was using a rental car last week for a few days and I was definitely missing my physical buttons. I had to ask the guy in the passenger seat to change things for me because whenever I tried to without taking my eyes off the road I'd almost never hit the right buttons. Especially when I was going over bumps on the road.

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    Ford, in their infinite wisdom, decided to make the touchscreen pressure-sensitive, but the flat physical buttons capacitive. Which means that it's super easy to accidentally turn on the driver's seat heater if you dare use the volume knob, impossible to use any of the physical buttons if you have normal gloves on, and very inaccurate to use the touchscreen with those same gloves on.

    They know it, too, because when I had a 2013 Fusion, the overhead console with the dome light buttons was the same capacitive bullshit, and my 2015 Fusion has a regular button. (Apart from these design flaws, I love the car, which is why I replaced one with the other.)

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      Ford, in their infinite wisdom, decided to make the touchscreen pressure-sensitive, but the flat physical buttons capacitive. Which means that it's super easy to accidentally turn on the driver's seat heater if you dare use the volume knob, impossible to use any of the physical buttons if you have normal gloves on, and very inaccurate to use the touchscreen with those same gloves on.

      They know it, too, because when I had a 2013 Fusion, the overhead console with the dome light buttons was the same capacitive bullshit, and my 2015 Fusion has a regular button. (Apart from these design flaws, I love the car, which is why I replaced one with the other.)

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      At least you had a volume knob. Last week I drove a new Renault Clio via local carsharing, and it had a touchscreen, where you had to click a button on the screen to pop up a slider next to it, where you could change the volume. It had like 5 buttons on the steering wheel, some of them even looked like they could be used for controlling the volume, but no, they were for cruise control or whatever, the only way to change the volume was via the touchscreen with two taps.

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        At least you had a volume knob. Last week I drove a new Renault Clio via local carsharing, and it had a touchscreen, where you had to click a button on the screen to pop up a slider next to it, where you could change the volume. It had like 5 buttons on the steering wheel, some of them even looked like they could be used for controlling the volume, but no, they were for cruise control or whatever, the only way to change the volume was via the touchscreen with two taps.

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        We had a Civic with that kind of weird slidy up/down volume control, total garbage.

        A knob for volume control has been the standard for car audio since there was car audio. If you're going to change that, why not put the clutch pedal all the way on the right?

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          We had a Civic with that kind of weird slidy up/down volume control, total garbage.

          A knob for volume control has been the standard for car audio since there was car audio. If you're going to change that, why not put the clutch pedal all the way on the right?

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          why not put the clutch pedal all the way on the right?

          Have you driven a clutch?

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            I looked it up as as I typed it sounded too stupid to me. It was a 2024 Clio. It doesn't have a knob, but it has a separate control rod below the steering wheel on the bottom right side, and that has volume buttons. According to the car sharing app I drove it for 15 minutes, and I remember I was looking for that and couldn't find it. Is it possible it's not a standard feature, and they didn't have it in that car? Or it just places so badly that you can't see it from the drivers position?

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              I looked it up as as I typed it sounded too stupid to me. It was a 2024 Clio. It doesn't have a knob, but it has a separate control rod below the steering wheel on the bottom right side, and that has volume buttons. According to the car sharing app I drove it for 15 minutes, and I remember I was looking for that and couldn't find it. Is it possible it's not a standard feature, and they didn't have it in that car? Or it just places so badly that you can't see it from the drivers position?

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              Control rod? Like an extra stalk off the side? Totally possible for that to be invisible from the driver's position, either from being behind a steering wheel spoke, or by blending in to the rest of the car, while being a thing you would not even be looking for, especially for something like volume controls.

              It's also possible, being a "rental" car, that it had as few options as possible, including not having that control.

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                Control rod? Like an extra stalk off the side? Totally possible for that to be invisible from the driver's position, either from being behind a steering wheel spoke, or by blending in to the rest of the car, while being a thing you would not even be looking for, especially for something like volume controls.

                It's also possible, being a "rental" car, that it had as few options as possible, including not having that control.

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                Yeah, I don't know what is the correct English term for that thingies. As it was a rental car maybe the seat was not at the perfect height, I usually just move the the seat back and forth, you don't start to change it vertically just for a 15 minute ride.

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                  My car is pretty old and doesn't have any screens. I was using a rental car last week for a few days and I was definitely missing my physical buttons. I had to ask the guy in the passenger seat to change things for me because whenever I tried to without taking my eyes off the road I'd almost never hit the right buttons. Especially when I was going over bumps on the road.

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                  I'm renting a Mazda and it seems really tame on that front. Buttons for everything.... There's one screen that can do Android Auto/Carplay but it's NOT touchscreen. You have a big knob down with the gear selector that you can rotate and push in/up/down/left/right to use it. But no car controls except radio tuning on it.

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                    I looked it up as as I typed it sounded too stupid to me. It was a 2024 Clio. It doesn't have a knob, but it has a separate control rod below the steering wheel on the bottom right side, and that has volume buttons. According to the car sharing app I drove it for 15 minutes, and I remember I was looking for that and couldn't find it. Is it possible it's not a standard feature, and they didn't have it in that car? Or it just places so badly that you can't see it from the drivers position?

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                    I'd say it was placed badly. These days when I rent a car I always read the owners manual. At least the sections that explain the infotainment system, steering wheel, and stalks, which always have a huge number of buttons and dials with inscrutable graphic labels that don't explain what they do. Yet ironically despite all these physical controls plenty of important controls are not accessible physically.

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                      I'd say it was placed badly. These days when I rent a car I always read the owners manual. At least the sections that explain the infotainment system, steering wheel, and stalks, which always have a huge number of buttons and dials with inscrutable graphic labels that don't explain what they do. Yet ironically despite all these physical controls plenty of important controls are not accessible physically.

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                      It's short range car rental, and they have a lot of different models from different manufacturers, so you can't even know which one you will ride next tine. Open the app, see where is the closest car and what it's type. Book the car than you have 30 minutes to reach the car and start your trip. That's not enough time to look up manuals.

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