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  • S [email protected]

    I'm sorry I don't know how to traverse the FS by fucking. Can you show me 😉

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    #164

    I'm sure there's a VR headset mod out that allows just this...In both solo and partner modes!

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      Bit by bit? The move to mobile was like getting hit in the face with an inaccessibility bat. I hate mobile OSes with a passion. Unfortunately, they're overwhelmingly the way through which people interact with the Internet or do any kind of tech stuff anymore. I do a lot of audio work, and Android lacks even simple routing software. It just uses the last audio device plugged into it. Never mind you only want to use the mic on that and not the output. Forget using multiple devices. It's infuriating. You'll pry my desktop away from me through my cold, dead hands.

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      Sounds like you should install Ubuntu touch on your phone

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        #166

        For me Files shows recent files right on top as the first thing you see when you open the app. X-Plore has a Recent Files section too. Moreover most apps that save something usually show a toast with the file/folder path when done. I don't know what you're talking about.

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          No it does exactly that. The issue is that the config you are looking at was not created by a package.

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          #167

          That person wants to find a file used by a certain package.

          You gave them a command to find a file shipped in a certain package.

          Those are not the same things so no, you did not gave them what they wanted, as they clearly demonstrated by showing you that a file that they know is used by a certain packaged is not listed by the command you gave them when applied to that package.

          You de facto did not solve that person's problem yet have repeatedly insisted you did:

          Are you an LLM?!

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            Sounds like you should install Ubuntu touch on your phone

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            Doesn't work on all devices though

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              Android? you mean iphone maybe. i can directly access the file directory of Android both from an app or from my PC with a USB connection.

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                Solid Explorer has always been my go to. I never understood why basic file explorer functions essentially required the use of a separate app, but it's functionality is superb and the now-baked-in-but-terrible file explorer in android can never hope to match it.

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                #170

                If you think about it, its always a separate app. WIndows Explorer is an app and so is Dolphin on KDE. ls is an app.
                Android just has a bit of an identity problem with how to present files. Considering its made for the most common denominator, and everything revolves around 'apps' now, the concept of files, what they are and what they do is new to many. Most people wont even consider the photo they took is a file. Its a photo, not a file, what are you talking about?. So I'm not surprised the representation of files is on the lower priority list.
                I'm old school, I want to know where everything is in the file system and this part of android messes with me.

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                • flatplutosociety@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                  Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

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                  Thats my experience too.

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                    For me Files shows recent files right on top as the first thing you see when you open the app. X-Plore has a Recent Files section too. Moreover most apps that save something usually show a toast with the file/folder path when done. I don't know what you're talking about.

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                    Beeing able to access the file doest mean you know where it is. What happens if that file isnt recent any more?
                    Android hides the file system from the user. "Recent files" is a prime example of that.

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                      You still can't write into it, which means you can't continue off a save file from another phone.

                      I suspect this is to make piracy harder. A lot of paid mobile games (Ported from PC) seems to want you to use Google's cloud these days.

                      The only exception is like Stardew Valley, where they put the save directory in a normal folder. Every other game make it impossible to move your saves.

                      Heck, Into The Breach is even locked to Netflix. You need a fucking Netflix subscription for that. No thanks lol, I'll enjoy my illegal download. (I have to type in a cheat code to unlock the stuff every time I set up a new phone, but its a roguelike, so not much data is lost anyways)

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                      I think you can use ADB to access those folders

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                        Doesn't work on all devices though

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                        Then install linage OS or get a fair phone 4

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                          Yeah, it can be hard to find files sometimes. File Navigator solves this problem perfectly.

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                          I prefer Material Files.

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                          • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                            now look here you little... oh actually it would be nice to get away from tech honestly......

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                              If you think about it, its always a separate app. WIndows Explorer is an app and so is Dolphin on KDE. ls is an app.
                              Android just has a bit of an identity problem with how to present files. Considering its made for the most common denominator, and everything revolves around 'apps' now, the concept of files, what they are and what they do is new to many. Most people wont even consider the photo they took is a file. Its a photo, not a file, what are you talking about?. So I'm not surprised the representation of files is on the lower priority list.
                              I'm old school, I want to know where everything is in the file system and this part of android messes with me.

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                              I guess I meant that it shouldn't require a 3rd party app. When I discovered and began using Solid Explorer, there wasn't even a viable system app for file management in Android, you had to use a 3rd party app. They did eventually add a system app, but it's next to useless.

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                                I guess I meant that it shouldn't require a 3rd party app. When I discovered and began using Solid Explorer, there wasn't even a viable system app for file management in Android, you had to use a 3rd party app. They did eventually add a system app, but it's next to useless.

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                                Oh, Samsung has a files app. I just assumed all vendors provide one. I dont consider this third party though.
                                I guess it would be similar if you used GNOME and it didnt come with the app 'Files'. Linux isnt a desktop so there wouldnt be any system app for files either, just the CLI. Does stock Android provide a system files app? I cant find it.

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                                  must be hard to find the download folder

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                                    Oh, Samsung has a files app. I just assumed all vendors provide one. I dont consider this third party though.
                                    I guess it would be similar if you used GNOME and it didnt come with the app 'Files'. Linux isnt a desktop so there wouldnt be any system app for files either, just the CLI. Does stock Android provide a system files app? I cant find it.

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                                    I'm using a Samsung device now as well, but as I recall, my last Pixel phone did have a very basic files app. But stock Android didn't always - I was using ES File Explorer and eventually Solid Explorer on my HTC phones back in the day to restore basic functionality.

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                                      I'm sorry I don't know how to traverse the FS by fucking. Can you show me 😉

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                                      You thought I was making shit up?

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                                        I literally do this on my Android, what are you people on about. My download go into my Downloads folder. I can browse my phone just like a computer....

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                                        Good for you lol

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                                          If you think about it, its always a separate app. WIndows Explorer is an app and so is Dolphin on KDE. ls is an app.
                                          Android just has a bit of an identity problem with how to present files. Considering its made for the most common denominator, and everything revolves around 'apps' now, the concept of files, what they are and what they do is new to many. Most people wont even consider the photo they took is a file. Its a photo, not a file, what are you talking about?. So I'm not surprised the representation of files is on the lower priority list.
                                          I'm old school, I want to know where everything is in the file system and this part of android messes with me.

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                                          "Akshually, photo is not a file" is how iOS did it. Blew my mind when I tried to sync my files (Syncthing/Möbius) and it would not show any of the photos in file lists. Apparently it's for "security reasons".

                                          This was several years ago so IDK if it's the same still.

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