Giving up control bit by bit
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must be hard to find the download folder
wrote on last edited by [email protected]- the upload widget when trying to find that PDF you just saved
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That file directory is a hot mess, though.
yeah, i figure I'd kill myself if my PC was structured like that. but for a phone it does the job and if you need something it's not that hard to find it really.
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Do I really need to remind this is free software made by benevolent developers?
I get it it's infuriating but it's still in some way a gift you were given and seem unhappy with.wrote on last edited by [email protected]There is a lot of entitlement around free software. People expecting free things, often written in someone's spare time, to be really polished just don't understand I guess. On top of that, good documentation is hard to write and sometimes it's a completely different skill than writing the software itself.
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It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people
building it for freefailing to properly document their tool.Ftfy
Just because it's provided free doesn't mean you're off the hook for not telling people how it works, dumbass
Why so hostile and the name calling..? They're saying it's a lot of work for oftentimes a single person to do. That's just the truth.
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I think you can use ADB to access those folders
You typically won't have permission to write them with ADB.
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Why so hostile and the name calling..? They're saying it's a lot of work for oftentimes a single person to do. That's just the truth.
You're a fantastic idiot if that's what you actually think. That's not what they're saying nor relevant to the discussion at all
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I use a little app called X-plore. Gives me treed lists of folder contents and allows moving, copying, and deleting stuff.
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You're a fantastic idiot if that's what you actually think. That's not what they're saying nor relevant to the discussion at all
Yikes. Not sure why I expected anything else.
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Yikes. Not sure why I expected anything else.
Cuz you're a moron
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I can find files just fine on my Android phone, BUT when saving files on my iPad this meme would be true.
I was editing a document on my iPad, saved it in a folder labeled 'documents', searched with the files app and the document folder wasn't on my iPad or iCloud.
Come to find out the app itself made a folder named documents within itself. So in order to get it on my iPad itself i had to share the file to dropbox then redownload it 🤨
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Same, I always have trouble with finding saved files on ipad/iphone. Often it saves a pdf as “document”, and overwrites the previous download with similar name.
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I miss when computers did what you wanted them to do and not what the corporation wants you to do.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sorry, best we can offer is renaming Control Panel again and shuffling around the place you can find certain settings
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Good for you lol
You said you wanted to be able to do that. I'm saying you can.
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No error or anything, but it just doesn't have the
/etc/samba/smb.conffile. Just doesn't have it.dpkg -S sambadoes find/usr/share/samba/smb.confwhich isn't the right file either.wrote on last edited by [email protected]This is a good argument for shipping an empty config file.
Your point stands, but this also isn't completely unintuitive. There is pattern there: you installed
sambaand the config is in/etc/samba/. System level installs will almost always install their config in/etc/and the sub directory will typically match the name somewhat.There is likely a general thought that if you're going to administer a samba server, you'll also be comfortable with conventions and man pages. Although, funnily enough, in the particular case of
samba,man smb.confdoesn't show the path lol -
I use a little app called X-plore. Gives me treed lists of folder contents and allows moving, copying, and deleting stuff.
Total Commander with LAN, FTP and WebDAV Plugin enabled is really useful (if you're using Android)
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Re read their original.messsage. they specifically asked for, and I quote, "install paths". You're going to have to work on reading comprehension before accusing people of being LLMs.
Meanwhile, every single time they replied they used the command wrong... Provided the wrong value for the arguments. Despite the original instructions. Yeah, it didn't work for them. That's a skills issue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]From their original post.
I’ve been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths.
(empahsys mine)
To which you responded, with commands which are not guaranteed to do the former, only the latter, without making clear those limitations.
Your original advice is useful when paired with some clarification of its limitations, though given what the other person asked, it's insufficient advice. However by not making clear your advice's inability to in some cases do what the other person asked for, what you gave amounts to invalid advice because you've sent the other person down a dead end without making them aware that might be the case.
Then to add insult to injury, down the thread you repeatedly wrote that this is what they "wanted", which was obviously not the case as was very clear from the very start (it wasn't even what they asked for) and couldn't have been made clearer in the rest of the thread as the other person repeatedly said it was not what they wanted and even proved it.
The only reason I eventually intervened is because in a professional context I've had to correct lots of junior techies doing the exact kind of mistake you just did, though it's rare for even a fucking junior developer on their very first job to dig such a deep hole of insisting again, and again (and again, AND AGAIN) they know better than the person seeking advice what they actually WANT whilst giving them invalid advice, as you just did.
I mean, thanks for giving the advice and do keep on doing so, just learn to review your own internal assumptions about what they want if it starts to look like there's a mismatch between what you gave them based on your initial assumption and what they seem to need, especially if they themselves are telling you that's not what they want (and that person actually went extremelly far in trying to clarify things, even giving you the output of the command in their system to prove it didn't do what they want - non techie and/or low patience users would've given up on you far earlier than that person did).
Mind you, if you don't work in Tech and don't plan on doing so, feel free to ignore my post.
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Same, I always have trouble with finding saved files on ipad/iphone. Often it saves a pdf as “document”, and overwrites the previous download with similar name.
That's annoying. I have not yet had the displeasure of experiencing the overwrite problem, but i am sure it'll happen soon enough. Thanks for the heads-up!
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From their original post.
I’ve been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths.
(empahsys mine)
To which you responded, with commands which are not guaranteed to do the former, only the latter, without making clear those limitations.
Your original advice is useful when paired with some clarification of its limitations, though given what the other person asked, it's insufficient advice. However by not making clear your advice's inability to in some cases do what the other person asked for, what you gave amounts to invalid advice because you've sent the other person down a dead end without making them aware that might be the case.
Then to add insult to injury, down the thread you repeatedly wrote that this is what they "wanted", which was obviously not the case as was very clear from the very start (it wasn't even what they asked for) and couldn't have been made clearer in the rest of the thread as the other person repeatedly said it was not what they wanted and even proved it.
The only reason I eventually intervened is because in a professional context I've had to correct lots of junior techies doing the exact kind of mistake you just did, though it's rare for even a fucking junior developer on their very first job to dig such a deep hole of insisting again, and again (and again, AND AGAIN) they know better than the person seeking advice what they actually WANT whilst giving them invalid advice, as you just did.
I mean, thanks for giving the advice and do keep on doing so, just learn to review your own internal assumptions about what they want if it starts to look like there's a mismatch between what you gave them based on your initial assumption and what they seem to need, especially if they themselves are telling you that's not what they want (and that person actually went extremelly far in trying to clarify things, even giving you the output of the command in their system to prove it didn't do what they want - non techie and/or low patience users would've given up on you far earlier than that person did).
Mind you, if you don't work in Tech and don't plan on doing so, feel free to ignore my post.
and install paths
And also configs files do in fact get installed by packages. Not all of them, but some do.
Whether or not they are guaranteed to be there is irrelevantly pedantic.
So what exactly are you adding to the conversation here?
This wall of text does sound like it came straight from an LLM. Give me a receipt for turd muffins.
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and install paths
And also configs files do in fact get installed by packages. Not all of them, but some do.
Whether or not they are guaranteed to be there is irrelevantly pedantic.
So what exactly are you adding to the conversation here?
This wall of text does sound like it came straight from an LLM. Give me a receipt for turd muffins.
You clearly are ridding the highest point of the Dunning-Krugger curve.
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dpkg -L package-nameOr the inverse
dpkg -S /usr/bin/somefileFor apt based distros, obviously.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This does not return all "config files and install paths" as it only ever considers files that came in the package, not files created by the package (such as /etc/samba.smb.conf, which is created during installation), so doesn't actually solve the problem.
That limitation should've been made clear in the advice itself so as not to send users that don't know better down dead ends, though the subsequent discussion between this and the previous user is a great illustration of how the way some give Linux "advice" just ends up frustrating those seeking advice.
(It even eventually frustrated me because over the years I've had to teach plenty of junior developers to not give advice like that, only they're seldom so bad that they insist they actually know what the other person wants even in the face of a user providing proof that they do not)
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This is a good argument for shipping an empty config file.
Your point stands, but this also isn't completely unintuitive. There is pattern there: you installed
sambaand the config is in/etc/samba/. System level installs will almost always install their config in/etc/and the sub directory will typically match the name somewhat.There is likely a general thought that if you're going to administer a samba server, you'll also be comfortable with conventions and man pages. Although, funnily enough, in the particular case of
samba,man smb.confdoesn't show the path lolThat's the thing though, when you install Samba it does create an empty config file at
\etc\samba\smb.conf, or at least I've never created one
