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  • N [email protected]

    Don't know what this meme is about.

    Everything I download is in my downloads folder.
    Good luck finding the downloads folder path in IOS.

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    #14

    That was a problem for years. Apple didn’t make the Files app to navigate the filesystem until 2017. It’s fine now, but it was absurd for sure.

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    • D [email protected]

      For real? Never used Android, but isn’t it built on Linux? It doesn’t use the same path /home/username/Downloads?

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      #15

      It does not, but on all of the Android devices I've used there's simply a "downloads" folder in the root location (or what is exposed to the user as root location, anyway) where downloads go by default. From web browsers, at least.

      The problem is that where things are saved is more or less up to the developer of the app in question, and sometimes they make some very nonsensical choices. The app could create a folder for itself in root, or it could create a folder for itself in "documents," or it could simply park things in one of the preexisting userspace folders. Or it could bury the file it just created in /Android/data/com.appname.fd6bca3/files/0/dl/, and it sure as shit won't tell you nor give you the option to put it anywhere else.

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      • A [email protected]

        I really do wish that more packages on Linux had installation paths clearly noted in a readme.

        I've been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths. Its just not one of those tasks I do regularly so I always forget best practices when trying to find stuff. The CLI always gives me the best results but getting the commands right can be tedious.

        I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

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        #16

        I usually start inotifywatch with read events, open the program, close it and see what inotifywatch dumped.

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        • M [email protected]

          Which readme?

          The one on the github that has out of date instructions and tells you to check the discord?

          The 6 year out-of-date one on your distro's wiki?

          or The gnu-info/manpage that is only for the original upstream and doesn't tell you where all the files have been moved or that half of the software isn't actually installed since it was split out into extra packages for justdebianthings

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          #17

          Do I really need to remind this is free software made by benevolent developers?
          I get it it's infuriating but it's still in some way a gift you were given and seem unhappy with.

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          • W [email protected]

            It's built on a , by now very modified and incompatible, Linux kernel. But not a GNU userland at all.

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            #18

            Yeah, fuck Android. PostmarketOS is my new best friend.

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            • M [email protected]

              Which readme?

              The one on the github that has out of date instructions and tells you to check the discord?

              The 6 year out-of-date one on your distro's wiki?

              or The gnu-info/manpage that is only for the original upstream and doesn't tell you where all the files have been moved or that half of the software isn't actually installed since it was split out into extra packages for justdebianthings

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              #19

              To be honest, sounds like you aren't using arch btw. Jk I have the same issues on arch

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              • M [email protected]

                Firefox: oh you just saved 3 files to a folder, allow me to save the next one to a folder you haven't downloaded anything to in months.

                Thank the allmaker for KDE recent files.

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                #20

                Thank the allmaker for KDE recent files.

                and GNOME recent files. I believe its even an XDG FreeDesktop spec.

                damn its 23 Years old: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/recent-files-spec/latest/

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                • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  It does not, but on all of the Android devices I've used there's simply a "downloads" folder in the root location (or what is exposed to the user as root location, anyway) where downloads go by default. From web browsers, at least.

                  The problem is that where things are saved is more or less up to the developer of the app in question, and sometimes they make some very nonsensical choices. The app could create a folder for itself in root, or it could create a folder for itself in "documents," or it could simply park things in one of the preexisting userspace folders. Or it could bury the file it just created in /Android/data/com.appname.fd6bca3/files/0/dl/, and it sure as shit won't tell you nor give you the option to put it anywhere else.

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                  #21

                  Get a file explorer. Mine has a "recent" tab where all the new stuff is. I can also move or copy files easily. Vanilla explorer is not very good but it does have the basics covered. It is annoying not to have a system-wide download dialog though.

                  I suspect part of why google's app is subpar is to promote their cloud storage.

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                  • A [email protected]

                    I really do wish that more packages on Linux had installation paths clearly noted in a readme.

                    I've been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths. Its just not one of those tasks I do regularly so I always forget best practices when trying to find stuff. The CLI always gives me the best results but getting the commands right can be tedious.

                    I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

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                    #22

                    I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

                    Great idea

                    hard time tracking down config files

                    Usually under ~/.config/<app> or ~/.local/share/<app>

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                    • real_squids@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

                      Get a file explorer. Mine has a "recent" tab where all the new stuff is. I can also move or copy files easily. Vanilla explorer is not very good but it does have the basics covered. It is annoying not to have a system-wide download dialog though.

                      I suspect part of why google's app is subpar is to promote their cloud storage.

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                      #23

                      I use Root Explorer.

                      A shocking number of Android devices ship without a file browser installed from the vendor at all. If you want one you have to install it yourself. This is baffling to me.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        i just give up after a couple of minutes if it isn’t somewhere obvious and then search my whole system with grep lmao.

                        how wonderful to live in a world where compute is so cheap.

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                        #24

                        Amateur. I read the source on GitHub to see where it's saving that shit.

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                        • subarctictundra@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

                          I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

                          Great idea

                          hard time tracking down config files

                          Usually under ~/.config/<app> or ~/.local/share/<app>

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                          #25

                          Often also in /etc/

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                            Can't get the save file from some android games anymore. 🤷‍♂️

                            One of these days, they'll add a censorship chip into every consumer electronic.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              For real? Never used Android, but isn’t it built on Linux? It doesn’t use the same path /home/username/Downloads?

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                              #27

                              It doesn’t use the same path /home/username/Downloads?

                              Same as what? That isn't a default path for anything in Linux either. It's a convention that browser follows though, on Windows and Mac too.

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                              • A [email protected]

                                I really do wish that more packages on Linux had installation paths clearly noted in a readme.

                                I've been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths. Its just not one of those tasks I do regularly so I always forget best practices when trying to find stuff. The CLI always gives me the best results but getting the commands right can be tedious.

                                I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

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                                #28

                                Suprised nobody said to use whereis xyz

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                                  just be glad you don't have an iphone. at least on android there are easy ways to remedy this.

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                                    • W [email protected]

                                      dpkg -L package-name

                                      Or the inverse

                                      dpkg -S /usr/bin/somefile

                                      For apt based distros, obviously.

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                                      I just tried this with Samba (so dpkg -L samba and dpkg -S samba, and I also tried adding grep "smb.conf" and running it with sudo) and I was unable to find the share config file.

                                      It's located under /etc/samba/smb.conf but that command was returning a path under my local user. This is on Ubuntu

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                                        Do I really need to remind this is free software made by benevolent developers?
                                        I get it it's infuriating but it's still in some way a gift you were given and seem unhappy with.

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                                        #32

                                        If you give me a 1000 piece puzzle for free, but without the instructions or a box picture to go off of, you've done a nice thing by gifting me something but have also failed miserably as I'll never fuckin solve that puzzle

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          I really do wish that more packages on Linux had installation paths clearly noted in a readme.

                                          I've been using Linux daily for over a year now and I still have a hard time tracking down config files and install paths. Its just not one of those tasks I do regularly so I always forget best practices when trying to find stuff. The CLI always gives me the best results but getting the commands right can be tedious.

                                          I've started saving useful commands in a note on my desktop.

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                                          #33

                                          Every time I touch a config file/setting I document it in my notes. I would be lost without it.

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