Which TV brand is the most reliable in your experience?
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Personally not, I primarily use Samsung but hear from colleagues that they had issues with other brands.
The other thing is that there are only 2 brands that make screens, Samsung and LG. Those screens are used by all the other brands as well.Apparently TCL or some chinese brand also self manufactures, idk which one specifically
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Just don't buy OLED and it won't darken, if you buy OLED get ready to replace the extensive TV every 5 years no matter what brand you buy.
As for removing bloatware I have no idea since my TV is from around 2010 and I only use it connected to the computer, but you can always just get a raspberry pi and install kodi on it and use the TV as a normal dumb TV. It's also good for your privacy.
Sounds like the OP has a backlight failure though? That's a non oled failure.
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The left part of the screen of my parent's Samsung TV have seriously blackened recently, so they are thinking of buying a new TV. We probably bought this like 6 years ago maybe, but I absolutely do NOT want to buy a Samsung again (6 years is just planned obsolescence reliability + their OS didn't let me remove the bloatware in any way or shape of form)
Which brand has been the most reliable for you, and also have you been able to remove the bloatware from your TV via dev mode or with a different method?
LG, my grandma's LG Flatscreen CRT is older than me, it is about 23 years old, works like a charm, very loud stereo speakers, ports and all important buttons in the front easily accessible, usable even without the remote thanks to the front buttons all clearly labelled
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The left part of the screen of my parent's Samsung TV have seriously blackened recently, so they are thinking of buying a new TV. We probably bought this like 6 years ago maybe, but I absolutely do NOT want to buy a Samsung again (6 years is just planned obsolescence reliability + their OS didn't let me remove the bloatware in any way or shape of form)
Which brand has been the most reliable for you, and also have you been able to remove the bloatware from your TV via dev mode or with a different method?
wrote last edited by [email protected]When it comes to electronics, reliability is determined by the quality of the electrolytic capacitors used as they are typically the first to fail in an electronic circuit. There are other considerations of course, but in general the better the capacitor used in construction the longer the item will last.
Electronics that have cheap capacitors will have about a 10 year life. Those that use higher end capacitors will last 30 years or more. I have two McIntosh amplifiers that were built in 1992 and are still working great on the original caps. They have McIntosh branded capacitors and are top tier, although I don't now who specifically makes them for McIntosh. I also have 2 Carver amps from about the same era and I've had to recap them already. Carver has great sound, but lousy build quality. Also have a Marantz receiver that was built in 2000 with Marantz branded caps that came to me with a dead amplifier, which just turned out to be a dry solder joint on a PC board. Two hours of resoldering several PCBs in it and it's working very well.
HERE is a good list of top tier capacitor manufacturers, just scroll down a bit to find it of top tier capacitor manufacturers. You'll have to do some research to find out what TV manufacturer is using what capacitor in their designs.
With that said, there is one listed there that also makes televisions and they, fortunately, have come back to the US market. That is Panasonic. I have a Panasonic Plasma that I bought in 2010 and it is still going strong. It is still my family's main television. It got hit by lightning in 2012 and I had to replace the power supply and main board in it, which was not the TV's fault. It has all Panasonic capacitors in it.
I also have a Panasonic Microwave, and cordless phone. Both of which have far far outlived their predecessors. The cordless phone will be 20 years old next April and the microwave is coming up on 13 years.
I will not say that Panasonic has the best picture, best sound, or uses unicorn farts to make the best what ever... Honestly, I don't give a damn about any of that. What I will say that in my experience if you want an electronic device that lasts a long time, buy a Panasonic.
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Oh that's a great tactic. How easy do you find open box TVs in local shops?
A few of the larger electronics retailers here have open box sections on their websites. I called several smaller ones, but due to their size they either didn't have model units at all or only had one or two. One place I went to found they had some returned televisions in the back that they'd never put back on the sales floor, but being effectively brand new they only offered a ten percent reduction.
The website listings were ideal because as made it less arduous to compare specifications. In my case I was rather particular about certain technical details, so it might be simpler for someone that cares less about colour uniformity or input lag for example.
That said, I've now remembered that once I'd narrowed it down from a couple dozen options to three televisions, the deciding factor was nothing technical but instead it was the only user interface factor that I do see: it turns on and off with an animation reminiscent of old tube television. I'm not looking forward to replacing it because I find this power on visual so funny with a modern screen.
It might be handy for you to check out rtings accelerated longevity tests and see if you can find those models at a discount. I make use of their tests pretty often.
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The left part of the screen of my parent's Samsung TV have seriously blackened recently, so they are thinking of buying a new TV. We probably bought this like 6 years ago maybe, but I absolutely do NOT want to buy a Samsung again (6 years is just planned obsolescence reliability + their OS didn't let me remove the bloatware in any way or shape of form)
Which brand has been the most reliable for you, and also have you been able to remove the bloatware from your TV via dev mode or with a different method?
Somehow I've had the same Vizio for over 10 years now. Still works great.
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Somehow I've had the same Vizio for over 10 years now. Still works great.
I basically never hear anything about Vizio. Is this an USA only thing?
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LG, my grandma's LG Flatscreen CRT is older than me, it is about 23 years old, works like a charm, very loud stereo speakers, ports and all important buttons in the front easily accessible, usable even without the remote thanks to the front buttons all clearly labelled
That's CRT though, not exactly the same as new flat screens. CRT were all much more reliable.
Also brands are hard to decide since so many of them design shit to fail now. There is a Samsung washer that used two types of metals in the drum, metals that when touching dissolve each other basically, galvanic corrosion. It was literally designed to break prematurely.
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I basically never hear anything about Vizio. Is this an USA only thing?
Maybe? Not sure. I'm in the USA and we have em.
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Could be the case, but it's never worth to not ask your opinion.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I run a side business where I buy, sell, repair all kinds of electronics and appliances.
With the exception of (e the higher end) Sony, Sharp, Vizio, and Samsungs you're basically getting all the exact same parts just crammed in a different plastic casing.
Even with the brands I specified, if you're not buying the top tier, there's a chance it was made by third-party and is your standard component junk TV.
The panels, the t-cons, main boards, everything... basically made by the same few companies and crammed in different plastic cases for Black Friday sales.
Somebody else identified the capacitors as the main failure point and they were 100% correct. But the wrinkle there is that as long as you have your TV connected to a legitimate surge protector, not a crappy power bar, you will mitigate that concern.
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Somehow I've had the same Vizio for over 10 years now. Still works great.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I just replaced my ten year old Vizio ….. with a Vizio. The old one still works great but I wanted the new features. I upgraded to OLED, higher resolution, higher refresh rate, better automation: 10 years worth of incremental improvements. Even the apps were still reasonably responsive.
I used to care about reliability. I used to care about specs, but a dominating criteria now is how annoying the ads and and surveillance are. I don’t use the apps, but There’s not really any way to get away from it.
I have an old Firestick that i stream from, so it’ll be a much better experience when I find something less shitty to replace that
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Unfortunately, I think we’re trapped in planned obsolescence. I’ve been taking the approach of looking at cost as a primary driver.
The difference between a crappy 4K tv and a quality 4K tv is hard for me to distinguish in most cases. Especially, if they’re not side by side.
Let’s say I set my max price at $550.
You can find a cheap brand Onn or TCL in a 70” range size. If you go smaller you’ll likely find “better” brands.
I don’t think there’s much that makes one brand better than others. 5-7 years is probably max life of anything you’ll buy today. Unless you’re willing to open it up and start trying to find the bad capacitors and re solder to the board.
Rule #1. The tv never connects to internet
Rule #2. Rule #1 never gets broken
Rule #3. Use another device to play signal (fire stick, Apple TV, cable box, Xbox, PlayStation, pc, etc)
Rule #4. Use a sound system not the tv speakers. Go big with surround systems or don’t. Anything is better than tv speakers. I’ve used a 2.1 setup for decades. A soundbar with sub is simple to setup and use.I’ve heard Roku is one to potential avoid now as I’ve heard they may require Internet connection on setup of some new tvs.
A good tv has an acceptable picture, size, and plays a video source.
It’s important to consider whether a tv is even desirable anymore. Everyone has their own personal devices to stream, gaming systems have monitors, etc: I rarely use the big screen anymore. If I needed to replace it, I’d give serious consideration to NOT
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I've never had a TV stop working in my life
my dad had 2 really expensive big ones die, so we just moved back to the shitty 1080 one from like a decade ago