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I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

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    I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

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      I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

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      Agreed. I'd like to see him in Von der Leyen's job once she's out.

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        I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

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        i meeeeean idk much about french politics, but from everything i heard the biggest shit show was the pension thing, and that was more an individuals being annoyed about getting less, but the pension situation was unsustainable so they either do something or it all imploded and macron tried to do something and people hated it because it effected them personally but now they’ve still got to deal with it and it’s just getting worse?

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          i meeeeean idk much about french politics, but from everything i heard the biggest shit show was the pension thing, and that was more an individuals being annoyed about getting less, but the pension situation was unsustainable so they either do something or it all imploded and macron tried to do something and people hated it because it effected them personally but now they’ve still got to deal with it and it’s just getting worse?

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          He's consistently been the president of the wealthy, he could have chosen to make wealthy pensioners take some of the financial burden but decided to put it all on the working population.

          He also deleted a wealth tax, consistently slashed benefits for unemployment and social minimums.

          On a personal level, he's had too many dealings with quite a few people implicated in criminal scandals (Sarkozy, notably) to be clean.

          All that to say, I can appreciate his talks about Europe, but he's not been a good president for the french workers, and it's likely to lead to the far right being in control in a couple years, which could be a disaster for said European project.

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            Agreed. I'd like to see him in Von der Leyen's job once she's out.

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            I can't take her seriously, the EU needs a strong face and she's not doing it for me. This isn't a woman VS man thing, I thought Merkel was tougher than Scholz to be fair.

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              i meeeeean idk much about french politics, but from everything i heard the biggest shit show was the pension thing, and that was more an individuals being annoyed about getting less, but the pension situation was unsustainable so they either do something or it all imploded and macron tried to do something and people hated it because it effected them personally but now they’ve still got to deal with it and it’s just getting worse?

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              that was more an individuals being annoyed about getting less

              Not, that was about Macron trampling on the democratic process to pass a controversial law. (And yes, things needed to be adjusted with the pension system, but it didn’t have to be done this specific way, there were several options besides the one His Highness Macron curtly chose for all of us. It also didn’t need to be done that urgently.) Also, for some of these individuals, “getting less” will, concretely, mean “dying before reaching retirement age” or “falling into poverty because their company or their health won’t let them work until retirement age”, so I think it’s a bit unfair to present it like you do, as if it were mere discontentment over getting slightly less than they were hoping for.

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                I can't take her seriously, the EU needs a strong face and she's not doing it for me. This isn't a woman VS man thing, I thought Merkel was tougher than Scholz to be fair.

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                It's mostly a she's-corrupt-and-shouldn't-hold-any-public-office thing.

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                  He's consistently been the president of the wealthy, he could have chosen to make wealthy pensioners take some of the financial burden but decided to put it all on the working population.

                  He also deleted a wealth tax, consistently slashed benefits for unemployment and social minimums.

                  On a personal level, he's had too many dealings with quite a few people implicated in criminal scandals (Sarkozy, notably) to be clean.

                  All that to say, I can appreciate his talks about Europe, but he's not been a good president for the french workers, and it's likely to lead to the far right being in control in a couple years, which could be a disaster for said European project.

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                  ahah righto well yeah that’s all super shit

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                    I can't take her seriously, the EU needs a strong face and she's not doing it for me. This isn't a woman VS man thing, I thought Merkel was tougher than Scholz to be fair.

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                    VdL was the Defense Minister in charge when the German military lost several subs to lack of maintenance from their ultimately not so big fleet in the first place.

                    She is definitely not the person who should be there, as she seems more interested in pushing through Chat Control than doing any kind of serious policy on Russia.

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                      VdL was the Defense Minister in charge when the German military lost several subs to lack of maintenance from their ultimately not so big fleet in the first place.

                      She is definitely not the person who should be there, as she seems more interested in pushing through Chat Control than doing any kind of serious policy on Russia.

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                      Doesn't make a lot of sense though, she's in control right now and under her a lot has been done.

                      Don't get me wrong, I think she's doing a huge amount of garbage. But it's not like she's incompetent.

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                        I know he did some shitty stuff domestically, but hes one of the biggest eurobros.

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                        I read this as euroboros, and now I'm trying to imagine a European snake eating its own tail..,

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