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    Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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    • virkkunen@fedia.ioV [email protected]

      Jack Dorsey has nothing to do with Bluesky

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      Aside from being its founder. I know he left the board, but I haven't seen any reason to believe he gave up ownership rights.

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        Aside from being its founder. I know he left the board, but I haven't seen any reason to believe he gave up ownership rights.

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        Leaving the board of directors is pretty much as giving up ownership rights. He has nothing to do with Bluesky anymore and he makes us sure he doesn't want to.

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        • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

          Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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          #57

          In a word, audience. I'd prefer it if everyone went with Mastodon, but the audience on BlueSky is orders of magnitude bigger. I cross post to both, but only because I don't trust BlueSky not to do exactly what Twitter and Meta have done eventually.

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          • virkkunen@fedia.ioV [email protected]

            Leaving the board of directors is pretty much as giving up ownership rights. He has nothing to do with Bluesky anymore and he makes us sure he doesn't want to.

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            #58

            It means he doesn't directly manage it. Proof that he sold his ownership to somebody else would be evidence of giving up ownership rights.

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            • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

              Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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              I'm on both and Mastodon is missing (at least in any easy to use way) most of the features that make Bluesky such a good destination:

              • instant add subscribe lists
              • subscribable block lists
              • custom feeds/subscribable algorithms
              • keyword/topic blocks
              • nuclear block where you never see the blocked person again
              • optional discover feed
              • DM preferences

              All these things (and more I'm sure I'm forgetting), make Bluesky very quick to get started with and very powerful for honing your feeds to be exactly how you want and free of harassment and trolling.

              I am still trying with Mastodon, but it's really slow going and I can fully understand why people wouldn't bother. After a year I am way behind where I was in a week with Bluesky.

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              • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                Non-EU folk - this website won’t open in EU because they don’t want to follow our local user privacy protections. What they’re going to do with your data? Who knows.

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                man that is so cheeky of them!

                Instead of abiding with the law, they just chose to block content altogether 🥲

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                  I'm on both and Mastodon is missing (at least in any easy to use way) most of the features that make Bluesky such a good destination:

                  • instant add subscribe lists
                  • subscribable block lists
                  • custom feeds/subscribable algorithms
                  • keyword/topic blocks
                  • nuclear block where you never see the blocked person again
                  • optional discover feed
                  • DM preferences

                  All these things (and more I'm sure I'm forgetting), make Bluesky very quick to get started with and very powerful for honing your feeds to be exactly how you want and free of harassment and trolling.

                  I am still trying with Mastodon, but it's really slow going and I can fully understand why people wouldn't bother. After a year I am way behind where I was in a week with Bluesky.

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                  I've seen a few larger creators say the reply management is bad at scale, too. The thing I mostly like is that here I am, reading Lemmy from Mastodon.

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                    Proof that people rarely know much about anything outside of their field. They'll just be playing this song and dance again when the Bluesky owner cashes in.

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                    #62

                    If/when that happens, its still better than giving twitter any traffic.

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                      Proof that people rarely know much about anything outside of their field. They'll just be playing this song and dance again when the Bluesky owner cashes in.

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                      There is at least some (admittedly subpar) federation possible. So if the need is great enough, someone may take up the challenge.

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                      • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

                        I've seen a few larger creators say the reply management is bad at scale, too. The thing I mostly like is that here I am, reading Lemmy from Mastodon.

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                        Yeah I'd prefer Mastodon to implement all these features and win, but I understand why it's not winning ATM.

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                          Yeah I'd prefer Mastodon to implement all these features and win, but I understand why it's not winning ATM.

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                          Same. Plus I came back here because Bluesky got too noisy so I'm kind of happy if it stays small!

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                            Same. Plus I came back here because Bluesky got too noisy so I'm kind of happy if it stays small!

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                            Lemmy is still my favorite, I was never a huge fan of the Twitter model, but I enjoy taking part in the destruction of X.

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                            • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

                              Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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                              #67

                              Guess why? /s For real, people, some of you live in a bubble...

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                                I'm on both and Mastodon is missing (at least in any easy to use way) most of the features that make Bluesky such a good destination:

                                • instant add subscribe lists
                                • subscribable block lists
                                • custom feeds/subscribable algorithms
                                • keyword/topic blocks
                                • nuclear block where you never see the blocked person again
                                • optional discover feed
                                • DM preferences

                                All these things (and more I'm sure I'm forgetting), make Bluesky very quick to get started with and very powerful for honing your feeds to be exactly how you want and free of harassment and trolling.

                                I am still trying with Mastodon, but it's really slow going and I can fully understand why people wouldn't bother. After a year I am way behind where I was in a week with Bluesky.

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                                Thanks for the list! As someone who has never used any Twitter-like site before (I guess microblog is the right term...?), and recently made a profile on Bluesky only to support it (I have used it briefly ~3 times since joining): what are the pros of Mastodon that Bluesky doesn't have?

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                                  Thanks for the list! As someone who has never used any Twitter-like site before (I guess microblog is the right term...?), and recently made a profile on Bluesky only to support it (I have used it briefly ~3 times since joining): what are the pros of Mastodon that Bluesky doesn't have?

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                                  As far as I can tell, the advantages of Mastodon over Bluesky are:

                                  • Well implemented federation
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                                    As far as I can tell, the advantages of Mastodon over Bluesky are:

                                    • Well implemented federation
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                                    Haha, thanks! I know it's quite important for a good bunch of people here (on a federated site), but I guess I'll stick with Bluesky then. Thanks for the insights! : )

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                                      Leaving the board of directors means no day to day control, but he could still exert influence on a shareholders vote.

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                                      • sudoer777@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

                                        Probably because it has an algorithm

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                                        It doesn’t though.

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                                          Why are they selecting BlueSky over the Fediverse?

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                                          Because the Fediverse is a mess with atrocious UX. Choose the wrong server and you might find you are cut off from a large chunk of it because a mastodon.art mod didn’t like something that happened on your instance and servers copy blocklist from each other (not a theoretical example, mind you, something I learned a few months into being on one particular instance.).

                                          Servers can have all sorts of rules you will have to carefully study or risk getting banned (some for example will only allow images with descriptions being shared, this includes boosts.)

                                          In short, the amount of work expected to participate is just - never - going to draw in the average user.

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