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  • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

    Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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    I think there's a fairly serious problem for large accounts on mastodon but I will never have one so I can't quite understand it myself.

    Something like dealing with replies / scolds without spending all day blocking is too hard.
    It doesn't help that "no algorithm" means "show first reply at the top" so quick replies can dominate comments.

    The but I don't understand is why this is fine on blue sky. Is it just different users? I can't quite believe that but I can't see why blue sky would be less annoying.

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      Why is it a problem? If a tool is good now, I'll use it now.

      I don't stop myself from buying a new axe just because it'll break eventually, you know what I mean?

      Although obviously if there was an axe that never would break, I'd buy that! But maybe there are trade-offs. Maybe the never-breaking axe has a complicated handle or something. I don't know, I'm trying my best with the axe analogy to describe Bluesky vs Mastodon. 😅 Hopefully it's clear enough!

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      We can avoid it ever becoming shit when a wannabe dictator buys it if we make it impossible to sell: like mastodon and other federated options.

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        I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

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        Most scientists aren't allowed to do stuff like that, or purely just don't have the time.

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          I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

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          Never meet your heroes. If a scientist is human, they're as fallible as any other.

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          • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]
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            There's no excuse for using Xittter in 2025.

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              i have accepted that most of the internet will be a vicious cycle of enshittification. go to cool new site, site gets too popular for its own good, monetization kicks in, site now sucks, rinse and repeat.

              FOSS stuff like lemmy and mastodon just will never get past the first step, which is fine. they will just occupy a separate niche.

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              Look at Linux's popularity over the years. It is absolutely climbing. FOSS hasn't even peaked yet lol

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                See you can be a really good scientist and not smart at the same time. Move to mastodon.

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                  It does have keyword blocking.

                  Not sure what nuclear block means but I can't think of any way a blocked person could be seen again. It even has above nuclear blocking where you block their entire server.

                  It has custom feeds but the implementation with lists is very fiddly and I wish it would be improved.

                  There is a trending posts section but I think you want a personalised discover feed? Which will never happen of course.

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                  Thanks for the update. Yes the recommended feed is personalized. It's optional. The main feed has no algorithm,, just who you follow.

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                  • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

                    Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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                    Cause the name is hard to remember.. I was trying to yesterday and the closest I could get is megatron

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                    • avia_vik@jlai.luA [email protected]

                      Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

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                      These who waited until the X take over to move away are simply following trends.

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                        Cause the name is hard to remember.. I was trying to yesterday and the closest I could get is megatron

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                        I tried masterdon, mostertant (I don’t know what that one is) and eventually needed to look up the name from an E-Mail…

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                          Agreed, at least it's happening with Meta too.

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                          #97

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                            This.

                            Many people like stuff getting recommending to them algorithmically.

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                            Exactly. I've curated my Mastodon feed way more than Bsky, and still, it's incredibly boring. Great if you want to use socials less.

                            It also tends to overvalue new stuff, so whoever screams the most occupies the most space in the feed.

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                              And it's ridiculous because the difference between Mastodon and Twitter is minuscule.

                              I remember following some popular Twitter Head. Someone made a fake account on Mastodon and started getting followers but only posted once. Since then, his followers have grown to around 11k without any content at all! Imagine if it had been a real account. But the Twitter Head would rather switch to Bluesky instead. Such bullshit.

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                                There is at least some (admittedly subpar) federation possible. So if the need is great enough, someone may take up the challenge.

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                                From what I understand, Bsky didn't actually provide much (if any) OSS code to create the federated apps, just the protocol. So there would need to be tons of work done to create it. Some people were (rightly) pointing out that time might be better spent improving existing solutions like Mastodon, rather than freely providing more value to a for-profit company.

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                                  I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

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                                  Some of us have. There are a few science focused servers.

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                                    Most scientists aren't allowed to do stuff like that, or purely just don't have the time.

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                                    What.. Are you taking about? I know hundreds of scientists and the vast majority of them interact with social media just as much as normal people.

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                                      I think there's a fairly serious problem for large accounts on mastodon but I will never have one so I can't quite understand it myself.

                                      Something like dealing with replies / scolds without spending all day blocking is too hard.
                                      It doesn't help that "no algorithm" means "show first reply at the top" so quick replies can dominate comments.

                                      The but I don't understand is why this is fine on blue sky. Is it just different users? I can't quite believe that but I can't see why blue sky would be less annoying.

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                                      It's not that it's less annoying, it's that it was in the right place at the right time to capture sufficient network effect..

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                                        Haha, thanks! I know it's quite important for a good bunch of people here (on a federated site), but I guess I'll stick with Bluesky then. Thanks for the insights! : )

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                                        It's important because, along with the ability to migrate accounts, it prevents/deters enshittification. In betting Bluesky will hit that wall in the next few years (I'm guessing they'll never properly implement federation).

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                                        • ripcord@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          Bluesky also has the option of doing this, or not.

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                                          Do you refer to the "Following" Vs "Discover" feed?

                                          Apparently it's very noticeable when a post hits the discover feed. The quality of responses dives off a cliff.

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