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    The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

    Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

    A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

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    This is a damning result for Israeli society.

    I have minimal knowledge of sociological research in Israel/Palestine, but if this result is a accurate representation of the views of Israeli Jews, then we can with confidence say that an overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews support genocidal colonialism.

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      Fuck liberal Zionists for complaining about progroms for all these decades. This is what you enabled. Fuck all the talk about two state solutions. Israel should no longer exist unless it becomes a multi ethnic democracy with full rights for Palestinians.

      Signed,

      A Jewish guy

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      How hard would it be to have a complete religious schism from the Israelis? They are lost and irredeemable.

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        Religion isn't the cause of everything you don't like.

        Never said it was. And I didn't say religion was the source of fascism either.

        Don't excuse religion's faults; it has been used to cause massive amounts of human suffering. Yes, it can be a positive tool. But it's a tool that has a well documented history of repression and violence.

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        And of course, instead of solving underlying issues, we should just blame and ban surface level problems so that nothing ever changes.

        Religion is just a tool, not a cause. The cause of all the problems you quote are ego and power-mongering. Those things twist anything they touch, not just religion.

        The solution is not more vapid reactionism.

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          The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

          Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

          A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

          MBFC

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          Holocausts for thee but not for me

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            The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

            Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

            A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

            MBFC

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            Hard to feel bad for the genocided when they become the genociders.

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              Religion is just a complicated excuse for violence

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              And pedophilia! Don't forget about all the Pedophiles!

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                And of course, instead of solving underlying issues, we should just blame and ban surface level problems so that nothing ever changes.

                Religion is just a tool, not a cause. The cause of all the problems you quote are ego and power-mongering. Those things twist anything they touch, not just religion.

                The solution is not more vapid reactionism.

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                fucking thank you

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                  What should be done is improving education, encouraging self introspection

                  This is something religions resist

                  I’m sure there’s some exception that just proves the rule but I’ve done enough reflection that I’ve reached the conclusion that religions are a dehumanizing influence on people and the rejection of science is the ultimate intolerance.

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                  I understand.

                  Let’s agree to disagree a bit.

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                    Fuck liberal Zionists for complaining about progroms for all these decades. This is what you enabled. Fuck all the talk about two state solutions. Israel should no longer exist unless it becomes a multi ethnic democracy with full rights for Palestinians.

                    Signed,

                    A Jewish guy

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                    Schumer is 🙂 right now

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                      I mean you can't play that card when the entirety of slavery was justified by that same Christianity up until the point that a civil war ended the argument. Again, religion had nothing to do with it besides giving conviction to anyone based on what they feel, in their head, god wants. Abolitionists were religious just like every other person in america in 1880, and Abolitionists were not the majority.

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                      I mean you can't play that card when the entirety of slavery was justified by that same Christianity up until the point that a civil war ended the argument.

                      Uh... No? Slavers made up race to justify slavery specifically because they couldn't use Christianity to justify it anymore.

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                        I mean you can't play that card when the entirety of slavery was justified by that same Christianity up until the point that a civil war ended the argument.

                        Uh... No? Slavers made up race to justify slavery specifically because they couldn't use Christianity to justify it anymore.

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                        Ah okay so just up to that point lmao

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                          And of course, instead of solving underlying issues, we should just blame and ban surface level problems so that nothing ever changes.

                          Religion is just a tool, not a cause. The cause of all the problems you quote are ego and power-mongering. Those things twist anything they touch, not just religion.

                          The solution is not more vapid reactionism.

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                          Religion's usefulness is way overestimated. It's a crutch.

                          And what solution? Religion? Yeah, hell no.

                          And it's pathetically ironic seeing a zealous reactionary projecting so predictably.

                          Blow it out your ass, for all I care. ~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆

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                            The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

                            Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

                            A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

                            MBFC

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                            How convenient that Israel can rebrand their original plan to the "Trump plan".

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                              This is a damning result for Israeli society.

                              I have minimal knowledge of sociological research in Israel/Palestine, but if this result is a accurate representation of the views of Israeli Jews, then we can with confidence say that an overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews support genocidal colonialism.

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                              This 3 year old video really sums it up

                              Israelis Mass Protest Over Everything BUT Palestinian Misery - COTTAGE CHEESE & ANTIVAX PROTESTS

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                                Religion's usefulness is way overestimated. It's a crutch.

                                And what solution? Religion? Yeah, hell no.

                                And it's pathetically ironic seeing a zealous reactionary projecting so predictably.

                                Blow it out your ass, for all I care. ~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆

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                                Crutches are useful tools. Do you advocate that someone who's broken/sprained limbs to just suck it up and walk it off? That's needlessly toxic.

                                Religion is not a solution, and I never said otherwise. I said it was a tool, nothing more or less. It's effectiveness as a tool is questionable, I agree.

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                                  The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

                                  Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

                                  A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

                                  MBFC

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                                  They need to travel more. Americans need to travel less. Once they see how many other countries have more than one mono culture, they will realize why us in the US think we have freedom.... And why we are really angry currently at the Republican party in general for wanting to diminish that freedom we fought for.

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