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Keyboard questions! Can you type without looking at the keys? Do you have a preferred format or make of keyboard?

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    I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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    #32

    Yes, my keyboard has no markings to indicate letters save for the standard two raised small bars on f and j so I can feel for orientation as per standard keyboard fare.

    I use the QWERTY layout on a firmware flashed zsa voyager split ortholinear keyboard.

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    • R [email protected]

      I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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      I love Logitech K800, which as far as I know has been discontinued 😞

      Now I'm in Logitech mk520 which is... Meh, it's okay, but still hard on my fingers

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      • R [email protected]

        I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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        #34

        I can type without looking if I'm on my keyboard, but when I made a typo I take a quick look to see where I'm wrong. I still have to look it for key combination.

        Edit: but I only type with four fingers. I don't know why.

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        • R [email protected]

          I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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          I use a 40% unibody split keyboard. I have a Corne, but I suspect the microcontrollers going out so I need to replace those or check my soldering job. Since I switched to columnar stagger I get a little disoriented when I try to use a more “normie” keyboard lol. Still use QWERTY tho

          I use blank keycaps, so looking is more to check hand placement or if I need to count my keys to search for a symbol

          I may do a bit of a show and tell when I get to my desk :3c

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          • whysteria@lemmy.blahaj.zoneW [email protected]

            I use a 40% unibody split keyboard. I have a Corne, but I suspect the microcontrollers going out so I need to replace those or check my soldering job. Since I switched to columnar stagger I get a little disoriented when I try to use a more “normie” keyboard lol. Still use QWERTY tho

            I use blank keycaps, so looking is more to check hand placement or if I need to count my keys to search for a symbol

            I may do a bit of a show and tell when I get to my desk :3c

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            Mine are blank too.

            I specifically wanted to learn to type without looking, so I got a blank one. I know it was from DAS but I forget the model.

            I had some problem with it and put a new one on my birthday list and got it from family and been fine since then. I still have the other one, so it must've just been an annoyance and not actually broken. I honestly don't remember.

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            • R [email protected]

              I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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              Yes, I love typing and do it quickly. I guess I prefer QWERTY but only because that's the one I learned on and got good at. I hate keys that are too flat, like laptops and some office keyboards trying too hard to look streamlined.

              When I'm thinking of how to spell a word, in my mind's eye I see it being typed out and that's how I find the correct spelling.

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              • R [email protected]

                I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                I can; but, while we had Mario Teaches Typing in school, I absolutely hated the cognitive effort and preferred to Hunt and Peck.

                I love computers, though, so my brain eventually memorized the keyboard just from constant use; now I generally type without looking (with a pretty average 44 WpM) but primarily just use my index fingers to do so.

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                  Keychron? Which one? Don’t leave me hanging like that.

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                  Keychron Q6 Max. with aftermarket switches of... some random type I forgot long ago. Quiet tactile switches that trigger at a slightly more shallow depth.

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                    Keychron Q6 Max. with aftermarket switches of... some random type I forgot long ago. Quiet tactile switches that trigger at a slightly more shallow depth.

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                    Nice. Unfortunately My keychron (k10 pro I think) just sits in a corner because it’s really hard to switch back to monolith after using a split. The quality of my split isn’t even half as good as the keychron, but it feels really uncomfortable to use the keychron now

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                      I can; but, while we had Mario Teaches Typing in school, I absolutely hated the cognitive effort and preferred to Hunt and Peck.

                      I love computers, though, so my brain eventually memorized the keyboard just from constant use; now I generally type without looking (with a pretty average 44 WpM) but primarily just use my index fingers to do so.

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                      Is 44wpm average? I thought more like 60-80 was average, but maybe my impression is off because of being somewhat active in mechanical keyboard groups

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                        Nice. Unfortunately My keychron (k10 pro I think) just sits in a corner because it’s really hard to switch back to monolith after using a split. The quality of my split isn’t even half as good as the keychron, but it feels really uncomfortable to use the keychron now

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                        They seem to have a few ergonomic ones these days, though still not seeing any splits. I suppose if you wanted to be crazy you could get two 60%'s and keymap them to a funky split but that's almost certainly too weird and expensive to be worth it. lol

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                          They seem to have a few ergonomic ones these days, though still not seeing any splits. I suppose if you wanted to be crazy you could get two 60%'s and keymap them to a funky split but that's almost certainly too weird and expensive to be worth it. lol

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                          Unfortunately, I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole and am looking into building my own

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                            On the contrary, my repeated failure in learning to touch-type qwerty are why I learned dvorak: it was reported to be easier to use. And it is! It's not advanced typing, it's Easy Mode.

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                            Faskinatin'!

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                            • R [email protected]

                              I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                              Yes. 70%. Kailh Box Navys.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                                I can't even imagine not typing blind, without looking at keys.

                                Fun fact: My left hand is not 10-finger-syste-positioned but WASD gamer-system positioned. Works fine anyway for blind and fast typing.

                                QWERTZ. Cherry Keyboard, mechanical keys, full with numpad.

                                I did look into alternative layouts like DVORAK a long time ago, but it didn't seem worth the investment of relearning. Current works good enough. (Even as a coder where parens and braces are more cumbersome than EN layouts.)

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                                • meekah@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                  Is 44wpm average? I thought more like 60-80 was average, but maybe my impression is off because of being somewhat active in mechanical keyboard groups

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                                  Heh, it might; granted, I'd just done a cursory glance since I was at work, at the time, but, taking a further look, it seems that 40 WpM is average with 50s and 60s being above average.

                                  Granted, that include people who aren't touch typists so that might bring the numbers down.

                                  I also tried retaking a typing test again as, the first time, I'd done one that was only a minute (again, being at work); I did another random one and got 66 WpM and another one that was 5 minutes and got 61 WpM. So I also seemed to undersell myself in that first comment, it looks like.

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                                  • kissaki@feddit.orgK [email protected]

                                    I can't even imagine not typing blind, without looking at keys.

                                    Fun fact: My left hand is not 10-finger-syste-positioned but WASD gamer-system positioned. Works fine anyway for blind and fast typing.

                                    QWERTZ. Cherry Keyboard, mechanical keys, full with numpad.

                                    I did look into alternative layouts like DVORAK a long time ago, but it didn't seem worth the investment of relearning. Current works good enough. (Even as a coder where parens and braces are more cumbersome than EN layouts.)

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                                    Hilarious to me that you learned to type from gamer-position, while l learned to game from typing position.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                                      I use Dvorak btw

                                      But yeah I touch type, but I often need to look to use qwerty when I'm on someone else's computer

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                                        Yes, we had a computer lab in grade school that we would go to maybe once a week or once every two weeks. We learned qwerty and the teacher would cover your hands with paper so you couldn't look. It was infuriating at the time but once I learned it, I was set for life. I don't really think about it, it's just like speaking a language to me. For the most part I type properly but I have gotten into a strange habit of hitting delete with my middle finger instead of my pinky finger. No clue why/when that started and I have to reach over farther but now that's second nature as well. I recall if you got good enough you could play around on the games in Mavis Beacon!

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                                          I had computer keyboards in mind when posting this, but players of the instrument are welcome to answer too 😄

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                                          120 wpm peak; comfortably 100 with high accuracy. Playing online games with no mic had me typing fast. Then I got a heavy data entry job. Not winning competitions, but I'm pretty happy considering I don't follow the formal method.

                                          I have a specific old Dell membrane keyboard I prefer over anything I've tried. Not a fan of mechanical keyboards. Tried blues and browns.

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