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Cloudflare CEO warns AI and zero-click internet are killing the web's business model

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      For a glorious second, the entire world was able to communicate as one.

      Then we catalogued every accessible reservoir of culture and knowledge, mined them bare, and refilled them with slop.

      A global collective consciousness, hollowed out, replaced with static. No signal. Only noise.

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        Cloudflare already ruined the web way before AI was even a thing.

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          For a glorious second, the entire world was able to communicate as one.

          Then we catalogued every accessible reservoir of culture and knowledge, mined them bare, and refilled them with slop.

          A global collective consciousness, hollowed out, replaced with static. No signal. Only noise.

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          I really non ironically miss the friction of the old internet.

          I prefer how it took time to find some bare HTML university website, slowly browse through an index as if it was a book, and then find one non-SEO optimized page with all the information you needed on a topic for your research.

          The time to browse, being exposed to other terms, having to select the pages yourself, being skeptical by nature, and then having to copy it by hand... This is a much more positive scenario than having a gigantic company learn everything about you and everybody else and then make these decisions for you, using some hidden algorithm, and with the ultimate goal of pushing their newest process. And of course, the content has been rendered virtually useless to appeal to that algorithm.

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            I really non ironically miss the friction of the old internet.

            I prefer how it took time to find some bare HTML university website, slowly browse through an index as if it was a book, and then find one non-SEO optimized page with all the information you needed on a topic for your research.

            The time to browse, being exposed to other terms, having to select the pages yourself, being skeptical by nature, and then having to copy it by hand... This is a much more positive scenario than having a gigantic company learn everything about you and everybody else and then make these decisions for you, using some hidden algorithm, and with the ultimate goal of pushing their newest process. And of course, the content has been rendered virtually useless to appeal to that algorithm.

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            when the internet was a wild and unexplored frontier, and we were adventurers charting the unknown.

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              when the internet was a wild and unexplored frontier, and we were adventurers charting the unknown.

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              I'll drink to that memory, my brother

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                I'll drink to that memory, my brother

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                Wild and magical, where we..upon getting our first connection to this wide world of wonder, would just explore. Clicking every link with wild abandon and discovering magic behind every one of them. No need for caution, Viruses were rare, Malware didnt exist, just spread wings gliding over vast lands of unbridled discovery.. Not even realizing 16 hours had passed and you had missed sleep, the adrenaline of adventure keeping you going, wide eyed and focused.

                God I'm depressed now.

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                  This is all extrapolated from google's self published survey of how their users interact with their search results. Approximately 60% of users don't click anything after a search. Personally I think that is because users have found their results to be seo garbage and not worth clicking on... but that's just my opinion.

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                    This is all extrapolated from google's self published survey of how their users interact with their search results. Approximately 60% of users don't click anything after a search. Personally I think that is because users have found their results to be seo garbage and not worth clicking on... but that's just my opinion.

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                    I've watched a lot of students do a search after I tell them to research something, look through a few of the summaries, then look at me in defeat. I have to tell them to actually click some links to try and find an answer

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                      Trying to comment in this thread and it tells me "Toastify is awesome"? wth?

                      edit: nevermind? whatever borked seems to have fixed itself? I don't know.

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                        Good. Maybe we can go back to paying for our services instead of getting tracked everywhere we go.

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                          Good. Maybe we can go back to paying for our services instead of getting tracked everywhere we go.

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                          That’s not what will happen. We will have to pay AND be tracked. They are not going to give anything up.

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                            Cloudflare already ruined the web way before AI was even a thing.

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                            In what way?

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                              Good. Maybe we can go back to paying for our services instead of getting tracked everywhere we go.

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                              This sounds more like "everyone is on TikTok and Instagram and will only ever be using TikTok and Instagram".

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                                That’s not what will happen. We will have to pay AND be tracked. They are not going to give anything up.

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                                Time to look for other services then.

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                                  Are they still defending the fact they host Stormfront?

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                                    Time to look for other services then.

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                                    Besides the internet?

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                                      Trying to comment in this thread and it tells me "Toastify is awesome"? wth?

                                      edit: nevermind? whatever borked seems to have fixed itself? I don't know.

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                                      Toasting is probably a library to add toast text (that little popup message) to a mobile app

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                                        I've watched a lot of students do a search after I tell them to research something, look through a few of the summaries, then look at me in defeat. I have to tell them to actually click some links to try and find an answer

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                                        I went to college for networking but the most productive class I've ever had where I learned the most about the internet was instead back in high school. This teacher would make 20 page packets with the most obscure questions like what's the weight of model number 62xRG4 (some obscure car part or something) and he told us to google it. We would spend entire classes just searching for information we would never use, but it drilled into me how to go about finding the information I need. It's been utterly invaluable. Thank you Mr Ward.

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