Maybe someday 😌
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No. I don’t think a group of bad actors should kill an instance. We all have so many tools to ignore people or entire instances.
What if the bad actors are admins?
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I definitely didn't know how heated people were towards .ml when I joined. istg I'm not a tankie.
Quick, say something bad about Russia!
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Quick, say something bad about Russia!
fuck Putin, slava Ukraini!
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Lol, Tankies just simp for authoritarian regimes like Russia and NK that claim to be communistic.
If you want to pull people to your political side, then you can do so without relying on misinformation and conspiracy theories. Which is unfortunately not what the admins of .ml have chosen to do.
I think they are saying it's important that ML people see more nuanced takes. Though without a coherent paragraph structure it's difficult to tell.
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Be bigger than them. Probably sees your instance as some sort of threat. They always shit on the big instances, I've seen Hex users refer to SJW as "Shit Just Stinks" before and they were celebrating the .ee shutdown. They consider .world some sort of right-wing instance run as a CIA/fed psyop
Do these people not ever talk to anyone in real life? How do you arrive at thinking all real humans are Marxists/Leninists?
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You sound like a communist. I hate communists, because they think we can just get rid of the state after we seize the means of production.
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Do these people not ever talk to anyone in real life? How do you arrive at thinking all real humans are Marxists/Leninists?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You mean Marxist-Leninists. Marxists/Leninists would be people who are either Marxists or Leninists, and as a Marxist-Leninist, I'm opposed to both. Marx was an idiot, he said "workers of the world unite" like he'd never heard of Communism In One Country. And Lenin was a counterrevolutionary who wanted the vanguard to work with the support of the workers. Marxism-Leninism, a political philosophy invented by our great leader Joseph Stalin, is far better than either Marxism or Leninism.
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I'd rather they stay on ML, that way I can block the instance and never hear from them.
Thank you for being the voice of reason. You may not want to hear from socialists because you're a fake CIA liberal, but other people deserve to hear our message and to be banned by our great admins
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I think they are saying it's important that ML people see more nuanced takes. Though without a coherent paragraph structure it's difficult to tell.
They're not here to see "more nuanced takes" nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can't even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.
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This is, why Lemmy will probably never be successful.
People are told to choose any instance and they choose the biggest ones, because that's also probably the one with the most content and activity. And after that other people will tell them they made a bad choice and it's their own fault.I'm pretty sure I used the word "unknowingly" there, meaning that they're not to blame for the first choice, merely for continuing to do so now.
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Be bigger than them. Probably sees your instance as some sort of threat. They always shit on the big instances, I've seen Hex users refer to SJW as "Shit Just Stinks" before and they were celebrating the .ee shutdown. They consider .world some sort of right-wing instance run as a CIA/fed psyop
wrote on last edited by [email protected]But they're a dbzero user, not an ML
Edit: I guess those aren't mutually exclusive
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Lol it's ok, they do things purposefully like that to an extent to get that result. Like if you go to Lemmygrad or Hex's homepage its quite clear you're somewhere weird that needs further investigation.
You go-to lemmy.mls homepage and it looks like a normal "privacy focused" instance. Until you innocently comment in support of Ukraine or something and find yourself being dunked on and banned for supporting a "Nazi regime"
Just like how NATO is a defensive alliance
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You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.
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Nobody told me all this when I signed up. I was simply instructed to pick an instance, and I did.
I did the same, but I never had any negative interactions on .ml tho. The folks over on Hexbear are a different kind of strange, but harmless in the end, and of course you regularly read bullshit on all instances, but it's just different tastes of shit, the ammount stays the same. After I switched from Reddit to Lemmy I started to encounter such a plethora of different opinions, it's insane!
If the deal is that from time to time I have to tolerate some idiot picking a fight about communism or Russia or Gaza or China etc., I gladly accept.
One Thing you really have to give too all the tankies is that (on average) they are far more likely to cite sources for their claims. Do they do it so you can learn, or to smugly proof a point? I don't care -
You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.
I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can't block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.
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What if the bad actors are admins?
I think even then it’s easy for us to block them. This is why I really liked lemm.ee
I had the power to see everything. If an entire group was heinous, it was my choice to never see it again, not someone else.
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Hah! Do you really believe this would make things better? (X) Doubt
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They're not here to see "more nuanced takes" nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can't even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.
I'm not agreeing with them. I'm just trying to do a translation
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I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can't block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.
I think you can block the entire instance, not community by community or user by user.
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You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.
It doesn't work, on Lemmy block is nothing more than a mute, and the instance "block" (mute) does not even affect the individual users of an instance, just hides the comms of that instance from your view
Lemmy's "block" still leaves you open to all manner of brigading that they've been known to do
And it still allows conspiracy theories, propaganda and misinformation to spread and fester and affect users who are unaware
They literally have articles over there spreading the Russian propaganda that Putin is justified in invading Ukraine because it's "full of Nazis"
Besides this is the Threadiverse, there will always be an instance with wide federation if you as an individual choose to open yourself up to that kind of "content"
