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    You sound like a communist. I hate communists, because they think we can just get rid of the state after we seize the means of production.

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      Do these people not ever talk to anyone in real life? How do you arrive at thinking all real humans are Marxists/Leninists?

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      #38

      You mean Marxist-Leninists. Marxists/Leninists would be people who are either Marxists or Leninists, and as a Marxist-Leninist, I'm opposed to both. Marx was an idiot, he said "workers of the world unite" like he'd never heard of Communism In One Country. And Lenin was a counterrevolutionary who wanted the vanguard to work with the support of the workers. Marxism-Leninism, a political philosophy invented by our great leader Joseph Stalin, is far better than either Marxism or Leninism.

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        I'd rather they stay on ML, that way I can block the instance and never hear from them.

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        Thank you for being the voice of reason. You may not want to hear from socialists because you're a fake CIA liberal, but other people deserve to hear our message and to be banned by our great admins

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        • deathray5@lemmynsfw.comD [email protected]

          I think they are saying it's important that ML people see more nuanced takes. Though without a coherent paragraph structure it's difficult to tell.

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          They're not here to see "more nuanced takes" nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can't even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.

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          • tja@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

            This is, why Lemmy will probably never be successful.
            People are told to choose any instance and they choose the biggest ones, because that's also probably the one with the most content and activity. And after that other people will tell them they made a bad choice and it's their own fault.

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            I'm pretty sure I used the word "unknowingly" there, meaning that they're not to blame for the first choice, merely for continuing to do so now.

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            • C [email protected]

              Be bigger than them. Probably sees your instance as some sort of threat. They always shit on the big instances, I've seen Hex users refer to SJW as "Shit Just Stinks" before and they were celebrating the .ee shutdown. They consider .world some sort of right-wing instance run as a CIA/fed psyop

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              But they're a dbzero user, not an ML

              Edit: I guess those aren't mutually exclusive

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                Lol it's ok, they do things purposefully like that to an extent to get that result. Like if you go to Lemmygrad or Hex's homepage its quite clear you're somewhere weird that needs further investigation.

                You go-to lemmy.mls homepage and it looks like a normal "privacy focused" instance. Until you innocently comment in support of Ukraine or something and find yourself being dunked on and banned for supporting a "Nazi regime"

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                Just like how NATO is a defensive alliance

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                • C [email protected]

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                  You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    Nobody told me all this when I signed up. I was simply instructed to pick an instance, and I did.

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                    I did the same, but I never had any negative interactions on .ml tho. The folks over on Hexbear are a different kind of strange, but harmless in the end, and of course you regularly read bullshit on all instances, but it's just different tastes of shit, the ammount stays the same. After I switched from Reddit to Lemmy I started to encounter such a plethora of different opinions, it's insane! πŸ˜„ If the deal is that from time to time I have to tolerate some idiot picking a fight about communism or Russia or Gaza or China etc., I gladly accept.
                    One Thing you really have to give too all the tankies is that (on average) they are far more likely to cite sources for their claims. Do they do it so you can learn, or to smugly proof a point? I don't care

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                    • foni@lemmy.zipF [email protected]

                      You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.

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                      I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can't block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        What if the bad actors are admins?

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                        I think even then it’s easy for us to block them. This is why I really liked lemm.ee

                        I had the power to see everything. If an entire group was heinous, it was my choice to never see it again, not someone else.

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                          Hah! Do you really believe this would make things better? (X) Doubt

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                          • M [email protected]

                            They're not here to see "more nuanced takes" nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can't even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.

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                            I'm not agreeing with them. I'm just trying to do a translation

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                            • C [email protected]

                              I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can't block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.

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                              I think you can block the entire instance, not community by community or user by user.

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                              • foni@lemmy.zipF [email protected]

                                You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don't have to limit other people's options.

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                                It doesn't work, on Lemmy block is nothing more than a mute, and the instance "block" (mute) does not even affect the individual users of an instance, just hides the comms of that instance from your view

                                Lemmy's "block" still leaves you open to all manner of brigading that they've been known to do

                                And it still allows conspiracy theories, propaganda and misinformation to spread and fester and affect users who are unaware

                                They literally have articles over there spreading the Russian propaganda that Putin is justified in invading Ukraine because it's "full of Nazis"

                                Besides this is the Threadiverse, there will always be an instance with wide federation if you as an individual choose to open yourself up to that kind of "content"

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  But they're a dbzero user, not an ML

                                  Edit: I guess those aren't mutually exclusive

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                                  Grad, Hex and .ml users have been known to have many alts to help spread their "message"

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                                  • nerdschleife@lemmy.zipN [email protected]

                                    After lemm.ee went down I joined ml because it was the largest instance πŸ˜”

                                    I didn't know the backstory

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                                    .world is Shitlibia so you did fine.

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                                    • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      Just like how NATO is a defensive alliance

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                                      If you could be so kind as to list the number of times NATO has gone on an offensive war, I'll be waiting.

                                      Russia has a history of invading its neighbors, with several notable examples including the Soviet invasions of Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968, and Afghanistan in 1979. More recently, Russia invaded and occupied Crimea in 2014 and has been involved in conflicts in Georgia and Ukraine.

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        Everyone needs a taste of anti-imperialist and non-Western takes, either for their sanity or just for their ideological development. I know Americans are gonna need them since the empire is coming home with full force, for instance. Without them, without 'radicals' like those in .ml, the folks will just be fed a new narrative to curtail their cognitive dissonance (it's the most imperceptible of buzzes for the least cerebral among us but it's still there) and they'll eat it up because that's all they're exposed to. So, no, they should be connected, for the sake of exposure. It's important too for those more .ml-coded to read, post and quickly check the downvote/upvote ratio in .world just like it was/is on big subreddits to get a feel of what the average literate Westerner, who at least considers discussion important (better than your average American, for instance), is thinking/has been fed recently.

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                                        By that 'logic' everyone needs a taste of white supremacy, Christian nationalism, Nazis, and so on.

                                        Certain opinions aren't worth giving any consideration to because they're so stupidly, pig-headedly wrong. The street corner preacher frothing at the mouth over LGBTQ people is one, .ml and the former hexbear (world's smallest violin plays a sad song for their passing) instances being prime examples.

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                                        • K [email protected]

                                          What if the bad actors are admins?

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                                          Then .world wouldn't exist

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