Its the you get to pick a superpower one. With a twist.
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so would invisibility be OP? I was thinking it would not need much modification.
Invisibility is way more reasonable. If it extends to things you're holding, it might need a nerf, but you're human sized and can be stopped by doors and such
Basically, you can be defeated if someone knows you're invisible. You're still there, you still have a big advantage, but it's an otherwise fair fight
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Invisibility is way more reasonable. If it extends to things you're holding, it might need a nerf, but you're human sized and can be stopped by doors and such
Basically, you can be defeated if someone knows you're invisible. You're still there, you still have a big advantage, but it's an otherwise fair fight
So you know I was thinking about the delay on the shapeshifting and realize the delay could be quite dangerous. Running through the woods as a stag being chased by wolves you would not be able to change to something more dangerous. Talking with someone else I realized the whole change to something big in mid air from a bird in most cases would result in injuring yourself. Then I was thinking about hunters to and now im thinking maybe the beast boy thing has it right. I would not want to look differently as me but what if the animals where always green like him combined with the transformation making the light and noise. Would that be enough?
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So you know I was thinking about the delay on the shapeshifting and realize the delay could be quite dangerous. Running through the woods as a stag being chased by wolves you would not be able to change to something more dangerous. Talking with someone else I realized the whole change to something big in mid air from a bird in most cases would result in injuring yourself. Then I was thinking about hunters to and now im thinking maybe the beast boy thing has it right. I would not want to look differently as me but what if the animals where always green like him combined with the transformation making the light and noise. Would that be enough?
I think you'd need more limits... Maybe if your mass stays within 20% of your actual body weight?
That would still be extremely strong, but not reality breaking. You'd be very limited in what animals you could turn into, but you could turn into a cheetah, a wolf, an orangutan, a swordfish, and plenty of others. The heaviest flying bird is 88lbs, so flight may or may not be in the table
I don't mind about the coloring so much, I'd say you can pick between always bring green colored and the light and sound of the transformation, both of those give the game away in different ways
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I think you'd need more limits... Maybe if your mass stays within 20% of your actual body weight?
That would still be extremely strong, but not reality breaking. You'd be very limited in what animals you could turn into, but you could turn into a cheetah, a wolf, an orangutan, a swordfish, and plenty of others. The heaviest flying bird is 88lbs, so flight may or may not be in the table
I don't mind about the coloring so much, I'd say you can pick between always bring green colored and the light and sound of the transformation, both of those give the game away in different ways
Well you talked about sneaking up on someone sleeping which sorta prompted the show for transformations. So you could not sneak up small and then turn large. I was thinking actually the orange the hunter vests are because again I was thinking how dangerous it could be running through the woods or such. Likely would not help as a bird. I think being a bird is a really big deal though and losing that would lose a lot of fun of changing into animals. Would limiting to mammals and birds be enough. Honestly I could do without changing into something like insects anyway and im ok skipping lizards and such. Mammals and birds encompass the real neat things to me.
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I have used gurps but prefered the hero system. FYI if its still running champions online uses it somewhat. It does not exactly have a variable power pool but it does have a freeform that can dip into various power sets and you might like to know that power armor is a pretty cool one. My favorite character was power armor. Anyway I think you have it right in the last paragraph. Someone mentioned colossus and I said power man would fit better I think but I think wolverine without the adamantine might work. Be a lot easier to knock him out then. Was trying to avoid multiple powers though like claws and healing or natural camo, prehensile tail, and teleportation. I figure powers based around an animal are still sorta one thing maybe. Much of this post was to hear from folks without the answers like. I can do this one little thing and here is how it would make me invicible. I wanted people to think along the lines of superpowers but not an I win at everything power. I have heard someone talk about a power a bit like one of yours. don't suppose you sold comics somewhere between high school and college?
I have used gurps but prefered the hero system. FYI if its still running champions online uses it somewhat. It does not exactly have a variable power pool but it does have a freeform that can dip into various power sets and you might like to know that power armor is a pretty cool one. My favorite character was power armor.
I've heard about the Hero system off and on for a while now, I might need to look into it.
Anyway I think you have it right in the last paragraph. Someone mentioned colossus and I said power man would fit better I think but I think wolverine without the adamantine might work. Be a lot easier to knock him out then. Was trying to avoid multiple powers though like claws and healing or natural camo, prehensile tail, and teleportation. I figure powers based around an animal are still sorta one thing maybe. Much of this post was to hear from folks without the answers like. I can do this one little thing and here is how it would make me invicible. I wanted people to think along the lines of superpowers but not an I win at everything power.
Sounds like you're looking for unified power sets for street-level superheroes? Multiple powers allowed as long as they're thematically tied together?
I have heard someone talk about a power a bit like one of yours. don’t suppose you sold comics somewhere between high school and college?
Hah, no, sorry! Don't have the disposition to be in sales, and didn't really get into comics much until college. Still not a huge collector, just like superheroics in general
Here's one I'm still struggling to figure out where to place power-wise: a tinkerer/gadgeteer type who makes custom super suits, gear, and vehicles for other supers, specializing in things that work with or enhance their existing abilities. The kind of guy who might have made Cap's shield, Spidey's webslingers, and the Incredimobile.
In the field he leads a squad of mildly enhanced people, all using his gear and vehicles. He rarely engages directly, instead directing his squad in battle. In a pinch, he can also enable "enhanced features" of the gear remotely - things that were in the manuals, if people would only read them! (Though they might not have existed before they were needed, on a meta-game level)
How do you scale the power level of a support/buffing character? By the squad size, by how big of buffs they can grant?
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Well you talked about sneaking up on someone sleeping which sorta prompted the show for transformations. So you could not sneak up small and then turn large. I was thinking actually the orange the hunter vests are because again I was thinking how dangerous it could be running through the woods or such. Likely would not help as a bird. I think being a bird is a really big deal though and losing that would lose a lot of fun of changing into animals. Would limiting to mammals and birds be enough. Honestly I could do without changing into something like insects anyway and im ok skipping lizards and such. Mammals and birds encompass the real neat things to me.
I mean, being able to instantly turn into a bird instantly is still pretty crazy, it's less OP than teleporting for escape, but still really powerful
Since you don't want the time based transformation or to give up flying, maybe a skill aspect? Like, you get the body of the animal, but not the instincts. You'd have to learn how to move each new body, you'd have to teach yourself to fly with a breakable body and learn to run on all fours, but you could do it with
But you also are capped between 25-100% your normal mass... That will let you get some of the larger flying birds, as well as a bunch of larger cats, but nothing so big you can tip over cars or anything
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I mean, being able to instantly turn into a bird instantly is still pretty crazy, it's less OP than teleporting for escape, but still really powerful
Since you don't want the time based transformation or to give up flying, maybe a skill aspect? Like, you get the body of the animal, but not the instincts. You'd have to learn how to move each new body, you'd have to teach yourself to fly with a breakable body and learn to run on all fours, but you could do it with
But you also are capped between 25-100% your normal mass... That will let you get some of the larger flying birds, as well as a bunch of larger cats, but nothing so big you can tip over cars or anything
what wrong with the tipping over cars? we are not limiting this to normal humans the example damage wise is a well equiped modern military person. The largest you can do on land I think is an elephant. Someone with super strength could throw a car at you.
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what wrong with the tipping over cars? we are not limiting this to normal humans the example damage wise is a well equiped modern military person. The largest you can do on land I think is an elephant. Someone with super strength could throw a car at you.
Large mass changes literally break physics - if you can switch from a diving bird to an elephant and back, you wouldn't just be throwing cars, you'd be able to send trucks flying
Limiting your maximim mass to human scale, you could still drop kick someone hard enough to splat them, which is pretty strong. Turn into a cat instead, and you could open them up like cheese as you pass
You also have an insane amount of utility - an eagles eyes can see for miles, a dog (or many animals really) can smell so well it's like a new sense, cats operate with a reaction time beyond human scale... This is a really strong and versatile ability
If the scaling has powers at a scale properly prepared and equipped humans could operate at, I think this is the limit. There's no answer to a rhino flying at you at 100mph... That basically can't be dodged or stopped
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Large mass changes literally break physics - if you can switch from a diving bird to an elephant and back, you wouldn't just be throwing cars, you'd be able to send trucks flying
Limiting your maximim mass to human scale, you could still drop kick someone hard enough to splat them, which is pretty strong. Turn into a cat instead, and you could open them up like cheese as you pass
You also have an insane amount of utility - an eagles eyes can see for miles, a dog (or many animals really) can smell so well it's like a new sense, cats operate with a reaction time beyond human scale... This is a really strong and versatile ability
If the scaling has powers at a scale properly prepared and equipped humans could operate at, I think this is the limit. There's no answer to a rhino flying at you at 100mph... That basically can't be dodged or stopped
Would it be any better if the transformation did not allow for any special ability outside of the froms. So changing from a small to large form under a car would hurt and squash you. Like there would be no shape change immunity and being a rhino flying at 100mph would likely injure you greatly. I mean when you land I think the increased mass would almost instantly put you at a standstill much less the air resistance.
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Would it be any better if the transformation did not allow for any special ability outside of the froms. So changing from a small to large form under a car would hurt and squash you. Like there would be no shape change immunity and being a rhino flying at 100mph would likely injure you greatly. I mean when you land I think the increased mass would almost instantly put you at a standstill much less the air resistance.
Rhinos could turn a human to slime at that speed, they're heavily armored and would probably not be harmed for the experience. If you could turn back into a bird instantly, you'd never even hit the ground... Something a rhino would probably survive if done correctly. Wind resistance wouldn't do anything either
If you want instant transformations, I think there's got to be severe tradeoffs. Even if you need room to avoid being squashed, that's insanely powerful
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Rhinos could turn a human to slime at that speed, they're heavily armored and would probably not be harmed for the experience. If you could turn back into a bird instantly, you'd never even hit the ground... Something a rhino would probably survive if done correctly. Wind resistance wouldn't do anything either
If you want instant transformations, I think there's got to be severe tradeoffs. Even if you need room to avoid being squashed, that's insanely powerful
I really doubt the rhino could handle these changes as easily as you think they could but alright. Im not sure they could handle a few foot drop with their weight and bone structure. Most heavy animals can barely handle their own mass.
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I really doubt the rhino could handle these changes as easily as you think they could but alright. Im not sure they could handle a few foot drop with their weight and bone structure. Most heavy animals can barely handle their own mass.
A rhino is covered in thick keratin plates. They could slide across asphault, their knees couldn't handle the drop but human motorcycle riders can't either
I'm not saying it's easy, but it is OP
