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  • D [email protected]

    In order for something to tip over, the center of mass has to move outside the area of the base and most of the weight is in the bottom part of the lift. So it is basically impossible without actively trying to tip it over.

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    It's only "basically impossible" if it's on a firm platform. If it's on a gimbal, like a plastic floating thing, then you don't really now where the tipping point is going to be because it depends on the flexibility of the platform.

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      They might get wet?

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      Uh, sure. You might also fall on the concrete walk way around the pool, or on the lift, or the lift might fall on you, or any number of things.

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        If you showed a picture of a standard tower crane to someone with a decent understanding of physics but had never seen one before, they would similarly recoil and go "WTF why are you suspending a bunch of concrete blocks high in the sky on what looks like a pencil thin beam!" and it would take some explaining, OR it would take seeing it regularly for that person to become okay with it.

        People don't see this every day, so they don't take it for granted, and therefore it looks insane. Just like tower cranes look insane.

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        This sketchy looking thing is safe, therefore all sketchy looking things are safe.

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          oh my god first ever recorded event of ASCII art in lemmy

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            It's only "basically impossible" if it's on a firm platform. If it's on a gimbal, like a plastic floating thing, then you don't really now where the tipping point is going to be because it depends on the flexibility of the platform.

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            #82

            those blocks are not that flexible*

            never seen them at festivals or some such?

            they're much stiffer than they appear at first glance!

            ^*if^ ^they're^ ^properly^ ^linked^

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              oh my god first ever recorded event of ASCII art in lemmy

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              1000073743

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                Trust them. They're engineers.

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                • Y [email protected]

                  What is a heckler? Like the people who interrupt stand ups? I went on two cruises with my family when I was a kid. And I can assure you the only stand-up anyone experiences is on the ship in between ports.

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                  I think they're referring to hawkers, or people on the streets harassing you to buy something. I don't know why everyone here is calling them hecklers and not confused by that.

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                    It's only "basically impossible" if it's on a firm platform. If it's on a gimbal, like a plastic floating thing, then you don't really now where the tipping point is going to be because it depends on the flexibility of the platform.

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                    Probably why the bottom is also anchored to the floating work surface. This implementation looks like exactly what you're supposed to do. There's lots of pearl clutching for some reason.

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                    • G [email protected]

                      If they had a short pole underwater in the middle of the belly of floating platform then it would be more stable than my 95 yo granny at 3 am on her way to the toilet

                      No idea how it works exactly but the sailing boats have it so to not capsize easily or at all. It actually takes great deal effort to crash the sailing boat on its side, these fuckers can go 90 degrees under heavy wind and still come back like a spring though no promise the people will be still onboard.

                      It’s kind of fun actually to sail almost 90 degrees on the side but scary.

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                      those sailing boat keels are lead-filled (at least at the bottom) and hydrodynamic so that the force of the running water pushes it back to center. it's a lot easier to capsize a boat like that when it's not moving.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        Probably why the bottom is also anchored to the floating work surface. This implementation looks like exactly what you're supposed to do. There's lots of pearl clutching for some reason.

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                        Safe work sites aren't "pearl clutching".

                        Who says this is exactly what you're supposed to do?

                        If you're ever working at height and you think it's safer without a harness so you're not killed to death by whatever you're standing on it's probably a good time to reassess.

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                          ezdock is amazingly stable. This is still really stupid but not as completely as it seems.

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                          Yeah, the surface area and buoyancy are serious. The lift is well balanced and designed not to tip over on a very small base.

                          I think, unless they've got some decent magic trick the biggest worry would be getting it on there in the first place. Maybe they crain it on there...

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                            those blocks are not that flexible*

                            never seen them at festivals or some such?

                            they're much stiffer than they appear at first glance!

                            ^*if^ ^they're^ ^properly^ ^linked^

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                            Any flexibility will change the physics.

                            Guaranteed the specs on that lift say it can only be operated on the ground.

                            Guaranteed the specs on that dock say it's not suitable for supporting anything at any height.

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                              I think they're referring to hawkers, or people on the streets harassing you to buy something. I don't know why everyone here is calling them hecklers and not confused by that.

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                              And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

                              Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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                                If you showed a picture of a standard tower crane to someone with a decent understanding of physics but had never seen one before, they would similarly recoil and go "WTF why are you suspending a bunch of concrete blocks high in the sky on what looks like a pencil thin beam!" and it would take some explaining, OR it would take seeing it regularly for that person to become okay with it.

                                People don't see this every day, so they don't take it for granted, and therefore it looks insane. Just like tower cranes look insane.

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                                Looks like it's going to pick up Seattle's Space Needle. Quite insane. /c/confusingperspective

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                                  It ain't stupid if it works

                                  Unless it's this

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                                  "If it's stupid but works, it wasn't stupid" doesn't apply to safety or security.

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                                    I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could willingly boars one of those monstrosities

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                                    They're a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.

                                    There's all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I've found they're generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it's cheaper. I don't know why.

                                    I'd only go anymore if it's a trip that would show things you generally can't see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.

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                                      The only issue is they aren't wearing harnesses in case they fall off.

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                                      The other issue is when I chuck a stupendous peg-leg bombie next to their aqua-franken-scissor-tower.

                                      Surfs up mfs.

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                                        I have done way sketchier shit than that. That is like a 4/10.

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                                        This you?

                                        175554

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                                        • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                                          those sailing boat keels are lead-filled (at least at the bottom) and hydrodynamic so that the force of the running water pushes it back to center. it's a lot easier to capsize a boat like that when it's not moving.

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                                          There are centreboards (not lead-filled) that use the movement of the boat to counteract leeward drift and there are are lead-filled keels that in addition to that also act as a counterweight to reduce rolling. If it's lead-filled it'll be hard to capsize, if it's just a centreboard you can easily capsize it if it's not moving (and use the centreboard as a lever to recover it afterwards).

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