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  • C [email protected]

    That's simply not true. People can't be expected to know what's going on under the hood of services designed specifically to simplify things for non-technical users and conceal what's under the hood.

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    This is more about knowing Google is an advertising company and makes money from selling your data. Than it is knowing how the application works and what it does under the covers.

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    • I [email protected]

      Yes. That is in fact what I'm saying. Brave has built in blockers for ads, trackers, and cookies. It has a built-in VPN. It has a built-in Tor browser. It's default search engine is DDG instead of Google. Considering Firefox defaults to Google for searches, you're likely giving more data to Google through Firefox than you would using Brave.

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      This is gonna be awesome

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      • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

        I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.

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        UPDATE disgustingly_detailed_data SET deleted = true WHERE inkognito = true;
        
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        • I [email protected]

          I really don't have the time, or the interest, to explain it to you; but all of the things you linked are either hyperbole, misinformation, or straight up fabrications; a very small amount of digging will show you why. But hey, I don't work for Brave or care if anyone uses it or not. At the end of the day, use whatever browser you're comfortable with.

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          #114

          I really don't have the time, or the interest, to explain it to you

          Then don't serve a check your ass can't cash

          a very small amount of digging will show you why.

          Then a very smalll amount would disprove me. Until then, my point of not installing this poison still stands. Enjoy your willful ignorance. Telling me off took more effort than finding your argument lmao.

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            Glad I don't use Chrome lol

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            • C [email protected]

              User visits Google (logged in)

              User visits Google, without cookies, but from the same IP, same user agent, same resolution, same OS, same enabled plugins, same browser version number, same fingerprint (based on al the previous information).

              Google, who could this possibly be???

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              You mean...they know I typed "boobs" into the search bar that one time!? NOOOO!!

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              • P [email protected]

                Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

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                Some ones been caught with his pants down 😏

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                • S [email protected]

                  It IS local incognito. By definition the name is accurate.

                  The wording on the warning both BEFORE AND AFTER the change says explicitly websites you visit, and anything external WILL still record and track you.

                  It said BEFORE AND AFTER that ONLY local things such as history omor cookies arnt saved.

                  It is 100% incognito. For the local browser. It warms BEFORE AND AFTER that it's not real privacy.

                  They changed the wording basically from an assumption people will read the examples given on the SAME page as the warning. To having the examples built into the warning.

                  Basically they assumed their users could read. They were wrong, people can't read. So they have to scream it now.

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                  "local Incognito" is some real mental gymnastics. If the witness protection program told people they'd help them go incognito, but only hid them from their own families and made it easy for strangers and enemies to find them, would you really consider that be what a reasonable interpretation?

                  Stop defending people who use shit like huge ToS docs and dark patterns to weasel out of deceptive marketing

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                  • P [email protected]

                    Then don't allow them to use those services without a license. It's cars or chemicals all over again.

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                    Are people required to know how their car works?

                    Do people have to understand chemistry to buy gasoline or mercury thermometers?

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                    • G [email protected]

                      This was silently changed it used not to have the disclaimer sentence

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                      Silently? It's been available for developers since January 2024. Major antivirus and security websites reported on it since then, to count:

                      https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/01/google-changes-wording-for-incognito-browsing-in-chrome

                      https://adguard.com/en/blog/incognito-mode-disclaimer-change.html.

                      It's been widely reported at least since March 2024. It's been well over a year since that

                      Hell even this meme is outdated, as the settlement is widely known since April 2024

                      https://www.engadget.com/google-says-it-will-destroy-browsing-data-collected-from-chromes-incognito-mode-172121598.html

                      So I wouldn't get why freak out like after a year?

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Are people required to know how their car works?

                        Do people have to understand chemistry to buy gasoline or mercury thermometers?

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                        No. However many things are regulated.

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                        • G [email protected]

                          This was silently changed it used not to have the disclaimer sentence

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                          Incognito mode (Chrome) and Private mode (Safari/Firefox) and InPrivate Browsing (Edge/IE) have had disclaimers/explanations for years, Chrome just expanded the disclaimer after settling the suit. Unfortunately for them the judge didn't know how the internet works any better than the plaintiffs. Winding back the odometer on a car doesn't mean toll roads don't know you drove there, it just means "you" have no record of it.

                          Opera / Vivaldi offer an integrated VPN, but they're about the only ones other than stuff like the Tor Browser.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

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                            Good for testing instead of "clearing cache and cookies"

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                            • L [email protected]

                              Incognito mode was always just to hide your local browser history. Think Google would NOT track you?

                              Do you have Google maps? They know where you are at all times.

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                              Do you have a phone? They know where your toilet is

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                              • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                Do you have Google maps? ANY UNMODIFIED GOOGLE CODE OR ANDROID PHONE, TABLET OR CHROMEBOOK IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER?

                                Then they know where you are at all times. I bet the Pixel users get gold stars. Oneplus have little pluses and custom rom users have 👀.

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                                Oh no! Anyway

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                                  Do you have a phone? They know where your toilet is

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                                  The know when I'm in a theatre and automatically mute my phone. Admittedly convenient, but also super creepy

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.

                                    Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.

                                    Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy

                                    https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9845881?hl=en-GB

                                    The only thing that shocks me is that no one ever reads it

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                                    I need to check into this, but maybe someone knows.

                                    I assumed that if you're using incognito and you don't sign into your Google account, the activity wouldn't be tied to your Google account. It might be recorded and sent to Google, but anonymously, unless you signed into Google/Gmail/YouTube/whatever, while incognito.

                                    The obvious is that your activity wouldn't end up on your Internet history in your non-incognito Chrome.

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                                    • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                      I really don't have the time, or the interest, to explain it to you

                                      Then don't serve a check your ass can't cash

                                      a very small amount of digging will show you why.

                                      Then a very smalll amount would disprove me. Until then, my point of not installing this poison still stands. Enjoy your willful ignorance. Telling me off took more effort than finding your argument lmao.

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                                      You're doing God's work in an abandoned universe. Also, I've never heard the check one. I'll be stealing that one.

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                                        The know when I'm in a theatre and automatically mute my phone. Admittedly convenient, but also super creepy

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                                        I've never had this happen. I need to NOT mute my phone next time and test!

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

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                                          There were memes about this what feels like at least 10 years ago. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.

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