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  • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

    Measles use your macrophages as a taxi to your lymph nodes so they can attack the immune system and the memory cells which are responsible for the immune reaction against everything you already encountered in your life - after an measles infection you count as immune suppressed for about an year, and people who caught the measles lose all or most immunities imparted by prior infection or vaccination. Studies have indicated that up to 90% of child mortality in 3rd world countries have a connection to a prior measles infection, even if the child survived the measles themselves. That makes the current measles outbreaks that started occurring in the last years pretty scary; in london there are only about 60-70% of all people vaccinated, which is not enough for a herd immunity that protects people who cannot get vaccinated.

    I hope it was interesting! I love talking about such stuff, was sitting here with a smile while typing, thanks for listening 🙂

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    Wow, I had no idea. Thank you.

    Is macrophage just a term I hadn't come across for virus fighting cells that we make, or am I right to be surprised that we have them? (I heard of their existence, but didn't realise they are made by creatures rather than just evolving separately.)

    Do mumps and rubella work in any kind of a similarly unusual way, or is it just coincidence that we need those three at around the same age?

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      Can you give some examples?

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      Is that the Netscape logo?

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        Show him girl, you are so smart /s

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          The other side: not trying to be annoying, just sharing knowledge or trying to engage in conversation. People just want to connect and maybe try to impress the other side.

          The middle: don't take everything as an affront to you.

          I have profound knowledge in my field of expertise, with more than twenty years of experience, and still have people talking down to me and trying to explain things that I'm an expert at. I just let them talk. Talk about something you already know helps fix the knowledge in your brain and you never know when you can learn something new even on a subject you think you know everything about.

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          Alright I can real talk.

          To start off, I don't like the term "mansplaining" because it's a nuanced issue around gender and socialization. I can't get behind the "men are assholes" rhetoric any more than "bitches be crazy."

          However. HOWEVER. This is an image of a man explaining something basic and condescending to a woman. It was literally an affront.

          Now. You could say the initial message was in bad faith and used a shitty gendered term. And yet—statistically—women are talked over, devalued and objectified in the workplace, and everywhere else, more than men. There are so many studies on this it's not worth posting a link. And there are studies on how this constant pressure and down talking increases stress, anxiety, depression and burnout. And yet more studies on how women seeking medical help for mental health have their symptoms disregarded or minimized, further reducing their ability to manage these stresses.

          So when I see someone pointing out the ironic coincidence of a woman trying to find some humor and power in a shitty situation that isn't changing any time soon(though, again, I still don't like the term) only to be immediately proven correct, it's dark comedy to me. I feel it because I live it, and I only have so much patience before meds and therapy get more expensive. I do not give a shit what you do or how you manage stress.

          When I see a hundred comments where men need to put themselves in a picture that isn't supposed to be about them, because again, this is a real issue with some dark consequences(and a bad term,) well, that's just fucking Shakespearean.

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            Wouldn't foregone conclusion mean that people do that?

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            Why are people so surprised when everyone starts to favor talking to AI's...

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              It would be cool if we could keep sexism off lemmy. This isn't reddit.

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              Gender wars stuff is the worst. I would be in favour of it being banned.

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                What was the deal with the Punic Wars again?

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                So like Hannibal stole all the multivitamin punica and that made Scipio like hecka mad so he put salt in it

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                  I think the insulting part of mansplaining is the assumptive nature of it.

                  This can all be avoided by a soft check before explaining something, rather than assuming a boy/girl/chimp wouldn't know the first thing about welding/cooking/crochet/throwing feces.

                  Whenever I have the urge to info dump about a topic I'll probe with a, 'You may very well know more about this than I, please let me know before it becomes tiresome.' 10 out of 10 it works, and usually both of us learn something.

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                  I just asume whatever I say is dumb and wrong, so I don't explain things anymore, I let people find out the hard way, and then act like I didn't see it coming.

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                    man: h-
                    woman: shoots him
                    everyone claps politely

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                    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                      Measles use your macrophages as a taxi to your lymph nodes so they can attack the immune system and the memory cells which are responsible for the immune reaction against everything you already encountered in your life - after an measles infection you count as immune suppressed for about an year, and people who caught the measles lose all or most immunities imparted by prior infection or vaccination. Studies have indicated that up to 90% of child mortality in 3rd world countries have a connection to a prior measles infection, even if the child survived the measles themselves. That makes the current measles outbreaks that started occurring in the last years pretty scary; in london there are only about 60-70% of all people vaccinated, which is not enough for a herd immunity that protects people who cannot get vaccinated.

                      I hope it was interesting! I love talking about such stuff, was sitting here with a smile while typing, thanks for listening 🙂

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                        I too hate [opposite gender of reader]

                        I hate them very much and would not like them on my bed or in my home or in my arms

                        I hate [opposite gender] and their tendency to be constantly on my mind

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                        Here is a story about how much smarter i am than [opposite gender]

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                          So I’ve noticed this post isn’t going over very well. I’d like to add a female perspective.

                          “Mansplain” isn’t meant to say you info dump or over explain a thing. It means that you assume you know more simply based on sex. It’s a type of misogyny that’s more typically overt in boomer culture, but it’s got a following in the whole Tate movement. I have rarely noticed it outside of that generation in the wild.

                          Now…Guys do infodump, which leads to this confusion, because a lot of people dislike that behavior too. Statistically women do speak less in mixed groups. Put it all together and it’s easy for people to over generalize a very specific behavior. It does happen, but compared to previous generations it’s not as common. It definitely occurs to women who work in non-traditional fields and take on non-traditional roles and I suspect that the same is true for men.

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                          IDK, I often find myself mansplain and not infodump. I am not from the boomers, I'm not sexist in any rational way, I'm pretty left leaning, I am though a piece of shit sometimes.

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                            I have the same problem. I work in IT and when I was on the help desk I was one of the "go to" people if someone needed help with a call. There were a couple times I heard new hires complain that I was "mansplaining" to them because I never knew where someone was coming from in terms of technical ability so when I answered their question I began at the beginning to make sure they understood. I did the same thing regardless of gender but I can see how someone felt like I was being condescending if they weren't familiar with me. It did always seem like it was people who didn't want to be there that would complain about it too. On the other hand several people that went on to get promoted off the help desk sent me thank you notes for teaching them so much so it kind of balanced out.

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                            I had an experience with a male coworker. I am a man too.

                            He asked me because he had a USB and he wanted to put the windows iso onto it but it didn't work. Eventually he used the media creator (or whatever it is called) but he asked if I knew what the issue was. After a lot of questions, I had figured it out.

                            He wanted to create a bootable USB by drag and drop the iso onto the usb and the usb was formated in fat32, so the iso was too big for the filesystem.

                            In that conversation, he said multiple times that he knows about this or that and that he knows computers, e.g. when I asked about the size of the usb (maybe it was a very old USB with like 4gb storage). And I could tell how he was slightly offended by some questions.

                            Also please note, he was "following" the Microsoft tutorial

                            Edit: typos fixed

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                              Imagine going to school for years and years. You have your doctorate. You're in the field for 10 years. You work in field that is 93% male.
                              You find a new job, good pay and reputable. The boss on the daily explains things to you. Some things that are just basic science and not even directly applicable to your work. No other new hires get these interesting and informative chats but what a coincidence, all the other new hires are men.
                              I never called it "mansplaining," it's just sexism. One cute word doesn't capture the malice that is often behind it and makes men who view themselves as harmless defensive.
                              Of course there is pointing out systemic sexism that is ingrained in natural behavior but its important to note the difference in a simple conversation and singling out a woman to explain something while assuming she doesn't have anything in that pretty little head of hers.
                              Personally hence, I've noticed it used most often when the woman you're targeting is smarter than you and this is a subtle power play to remind her of her place.

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                              Mansplainer perspective here. No, it doesn't come (for me) from a belief that a woman can't do anything, it rather comes from an instruction from a childhood that boys should always help and defend girls. If I were in place of that boss, my unconscious intent would be to lower the woman's burden.

                              I catch myself doing it and stop it but it's the hardest pattern I have ever corrected insofar.

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                                I'm really nerding out on synthesisers right now, and 99 percent sure she doesn't know what after-touch means, or why I'm excited that I picked up a late 90s synth with a good keybed and full midi.

                                My lady friend doesn't own anything that looks like a keyboard, so I'll apologize for the over explanation, then proceed to explain why I'm so stoked.

                                Essentially, I got, 'I'm glad that makes you happy!' Which I know means shit up and move on.

                                If she wants to know more about modular synthesis or rompers, I'm sure she would ask. I wouldn't force an explanation on anybody.

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                                Hahaha, my wife puts up with that same shit. I'm building drones on Veroboard. She'll ask how the electric octopus is coming along and then instant glazed eyes when I tell her how I accidentally let the smoke out of a TL072 but at least I used sockets for all my ICs. She did buy me a JP-8000 a couple of years ago though. She's a good one.

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                                • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                                  I have no reason to believe the person using it doesn't believe the man is being rude/condescending. Just because I personally believe something isn't condescending doesn't mean the person doesn't view it like that (and whether the person is actually being condescending is a totally different topic).

                                  There are a lot of insecure people in the world, to whom any explanation feels condescending. Are we really suggesting that the perception of the recipient is more valid than the intent of the subject? That's kinda the whole problem.

                                  Is it mansplaining for a man who's been a physical trainer for years to explain to a woman that she's about to seriously hurt herself with improper form? He knows what he's talking about, she's definitely going to hurt herself, his tone is polite but urgent, and the intent is sincerely to help her avoid that. Is her feeling that he's being condescending by criticizing her form enough to make him a mansplainer?

                                  it could be that the term really is used differently and I just haven't personally seen it (always a possibility).

                                  I have personally seen it. I've personally been accused of mansplaining when correcting someone on something I know a great deal about, and immediately after watching them do it very wrong. Honestly I've probably seen it used defensively to delegitimize the man in question much more often than I've seen actual mansplaining.

                                  I'm not saying it's not a real phenomenon, but it seems more often to be a term used to shut down legitimate communication.

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                                  I have personally seen it. I’ve personally been accused of mansplaining when correcting someone on something I know a great deal about, and immediately after watching them do it very wrong. Honestly I’ve probably seen it used defensively to delegitimize the man in question much more often than I’ve seen actual mansplaining.

                                  I’m not saying it’s not a real phenomenon, but it seems more often to be a term used to shut down legitimate communication.

                                  I've seen this one, too. There are women out there who are using this concept (and the concept of "old white men") to shield themselves from every form of critique, even if they were totally wrong. There are men out there who are behaving idiotic, but there are also women out there who are behaving idiotic. And I feel that the concept of mansplaining is getting abused by idiotic women and is therefore used against "innocent" men who really want to help. Esp. in the internet the concept is often used as "you are not allowed to say anything because you are a man" and that totally is not helping anyone. Women are getting frustrated because of course the other side will react negatively when you are communicating like that and men totally will think that those feminists are really big idiots.

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                                    Wow, I had no idea. Thank you.

                                    Is macrophage just a term I hadn't come across for virus fighting cells that we make, or am I right to be surprised that we have them? (I heard of their existence, but didn't realise they are made by creatures rather than just evolving separately.)

                                    Do mumps and rubella work in any kind of a similarly unusual way, or is it just coincidence that we need those three at around the same age?

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                                    Macrophage is just another name for the "common" white blood cell. They are the cells that eat up bacteria and viruses, and are part of the general immune system. The general immune system can deal with the everyday stuff - the pathogens you are exposed to every day, for example low levels of bacteria, but they also are involved in cleaning up the remnants of dead cells. they engulf their targets and break them down (for example using H2O2). If they can't keep up, they summon additional help, and part of that is that white blood cells travel to the lymph nodes and there present fragments of the intruder on their surface. (nearly all cell types present fragments of what they break down on their surface, but normally those are only their own stuff, which is ignored by the immune system)

                                    The immune cells then start producing antibodies - at random, until one of the antibodies sticks to the fragment presented. The cell that produced this successful antibody then continues to make more of them - the antibodies themselves are like "little flags" that mark targets. Like i said before, nearly all cells present parts of what they have inside of them to the outside - the flood of antibodies is now able to mark all infected cells in case of a virus infection, or mark bacteria. After the infection subsides, the cells that produced antibodies becomes dormant - it is now a memory cell, which can be rapidly reactivated if the same pathogen shows up again, you are now immune.

                                    Measles don't get broken down in macrophages - their capsule is adapted to that process. instead of getting broken down, the virus infects the cell, which still wants to show that it caught something. in the lymph nodes the virus breaks the macrophage open, infecting the immune cells that are amassed there, and this includes the memory cells. After a while the immune system becomes able to kill off the measles, but by that time the damage is done and your immune systems memory is wiped out.

                                    Mumps and Rubella work differently - that those are in one vaccine has more to do with that the three vaccines don't interfere with each other, and that the immunity imparted by the mother wears off around that time and the child's immune system takes over, enabling a immune response.

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                                      I have no reason to believe the person using it doesn't believe the man is being rude/condescending. Just because I personally believe something isn't condescending doesn't mean the person doesn't view it like that (and whether the person is actually being condescending is a totally different topic).

                                      There are a lot of insecure people in the world, to whom any explanation feels condescending. Are we really suggesting that the perception of the recipient is more valid than the intent of the subject? That's kinda the whole problem.

                                      Is it mansplaining for a man who's been a physical trainer for years to explain to a woman that she's about to seriously hurt herself with improper form? He knows what he's talking about, she's definitely going to hurt herself, his tone is polite but urgent, and the intent is sincerely to help her avoid that. Is her feeling that he's being condescending by criticizing her form enough to make him a mansplainer?

                                      it could be that the term really is used differently and I just haven't personally seen it (always a possibility).

                                      I have personally seen it. I've personally been accused of mansplaining when correcting someone on something I know a great deal about, and immediately after watching them do it very wrong. Honestly I've probably seen it used defensively to delegitimize the man in question much more often than I've seen actual mansplaining.

                                      I'm not saying it's not a real phenomenon, but it seems more often to be a term used to shut down legitimate communication.

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                                      Your observation is valid, but it would be fair to admit that as you're not on the receiving end, you might not notice all the occasions women get real condescending mansplaining because it doesn't touch you personally as much.

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                                        The word is formed from an experience common enough that the word caught on overnight. We don't need to get #notallmen about this.

                                        (Also, "I'm struggling to think of examples": thinks of several examples)

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                                        So when someone says "hey did you know 50% of the crime is committed by 13% of the population"... Sounds like they are describing a common experience. So by that logic does that mean it's not racist to say black people are criminals? If a black person got offended by that would you tell them "we don't need to get #notallblackpeople" about this.

                                        For large swaths of western history Jewish people had a disproportionate control of banks and the money supply. Does this mean that the conspiracy theories about Jewish cabals controlling the world aren't anti-Semitic?

                                        How common does an experience have to be by your logic in order to suddenly make generalization and prejudice acceptable? If one trans person gets caught sexually assaulting a woman in a public restroom does that mean JK Rowling was suddenly right all along?

                                        And you clearly did not understand what I wrote. I came up with the closest examples I could think of and then explained how they were not applicable to the situation.

                                        It seems like you really just want to be able to have a little bit of bigotry, a little bit of hatred. As a treat.

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                                          man: h-
                                          woman: shoots him
                                          everyone claps politely

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                                          Did your mom beat you as a child? Why do you hate women?

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