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Open source computer mouse by Ploopy

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  • A [email protected]

    It's not as accurate as a regular mouse.

    This is not true of all trackballs. Some can be more accurate than a mouse with the push of a button.

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    That may be technically true, but what's stopping someone from using the same button on a regular mouse?

    A regular mouse can have a large amount of movement with your elbow and very fine control with your wrist. Your thumb on a trackball may have more range or precision than either, but not both combined.

    My personal experience is that a trackball mouse is a little less accurate when trying to move a large distance precisely. Perhaps I just need more practice.

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      Isn't there severe issues with micro plastics doing this? Serious question. I've just heard in general on 3d prints that they're more prone to shedding.

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      I would literally eat a spoon of microplastics if it meant I got a mouse that was comparable to my G602. Not saying this mouse does that but there certainly aren't any commercial options I could find.

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      • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

        I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

        The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

        Here's another shot of it:

        A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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        Does anyone remember the Microsoft Sidewinder X8 mouse? It had vertical thumb buttons instead of horizontal, and I loved that layout, but it's literally the only mouse I've ever seen like it. But now that I know there's open source mice out there, I might have to mess around and learn CAD so I can alter one of these mice to have vertical thumb buttons

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        • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

          I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

          The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

          Here's another shot of it:

          A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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          This stuff is nice. Are there any plans for a vertical mouse for those of us with cranky old man wrists?

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          • M [email protected]

            Many people will say "just sand it down". But the extruder-printed plastic is still going to be porous as heck. A perfect place for germs.

            Personally, I'd use the 3D model to create a negative mold of sorts, and then cast it out of something more human-friendly. But I haven't looked at the complexity of this model, this would have to be designed accordingly.

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            Your mold idea makes me wonder if cast aluminum could be practical for a shell for this.

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            • N [email protected]

              Gimp refers to sexual exploitation. Often the "exploited" is a willing participant but often not. Regardless it's "funny" the way a 12 year old finds drawing dicks on things funny.

              Libreoffice only tells geeks exactly what the product is. My team, who uses Libreoffice, couldn't explain what Libre means, and no one can pronounce it.

              Being quick and catchy is a pretty low bar. No one knows or cares about the story behind Lemmy. It sounds silly in conversation.

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              Gimp refers to sexual exploitation.

              No, it doesn't.

              Libreoffice only tells geeks exactly what the product is.

              The target market is primarily geeks.

              no one can pronounce it.

              Sounds like your coworkers should expand their horizons. Libre is a common word in (at least) 2 widely spoken languages.

              Being quick and catchy is a pretty low bar.

              Not when you're naming a product. You think its hard to get people to use Lemmy, imagine trying to sell them on "Federated Link Aggregater Website."

              It sounds silly in conversation.

              As does Google, Instagram, and Tiktok but they at least managed to pick silly sounding names that don't sound like a child trying to describe a loose bowel movement.

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              • N [email protected]

                Opensource projects often have terrible names.

                Gimp, libreoffice, lemmy, Apache... just the ones that come to mind.

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                Yeah, as opposed to weird shit like Apple, Google, Facebook, or earphones like the Sony Model EA-JX1000JT

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                  Does anyone remember the Microsoft Sidewinder X8 mouse? It had vertical thumb buttons instead of horizontal, and I loved that layout, but it's literally the only mouse I've ever seen like it. But now that I know there's open source mice out there, I might have to mess around and learn CAD so I can alter one of these mice to have vertical thumb buttons

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                  I had the sidewinder keyboard with magnetic numpad that worked on either side. Loved that thing. Used the R.A.T. 7 Mouse though, fucking amazing. Best thing mad catz ever put out.

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                    Gimp refers to sexual exploitation. Often the "exploited" is a willing participant but often not. Regardless it's "funny" the way a 12 year old finds drawing dicks on things funny.

                    Libreoffice only tells geeks exactly what the product is. My team, who uses Libreoffice, couldn't explain what Libre means, and no one can pronounce it.

                    Being quick and catchy is a pretty low bar. No one knows or cares about the story behind Lemmy. It sounds silly in conversation.

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                    Gimp refers to sexual exploitation.

                    Like CBT and dozens of other terms, those damn psychologists and their Cock and Ball Torture.

                    Libreoffice only tells geeks exactly what the product is. My team, who uses Libreoffice, couldn't explain what Libre means, and no one can pronounce it.

                    Not sure if this is serious or not ?

                    If they're illiterate perhaps wider reading beyond Manga would help?

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                    • coelacanthus@lemmy.kde.socialC [email protected]

                      I want an open source mouse with electromagnetic resistance wheel like one in Logitech MX Master 3S.

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                      Might not be too difficult to achieve by connecting a small electric motor to the scroll wheel axle. Then you could vary the resistance by changing a pot hooked the motor's terminals.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        If you do the smoothing steps it can be OK, especially if you sand it in a sealed environment or with a HEPA vacuum handy to suck up all of the particulates. Once it is sanded you can do a short acetone treatment and the surface will be melted smooth. It can take some practice, but you can seal it up pretty well without sacrificing quality. Just be mindful of air quality and filtering at each step so you don't undermine your goal.

                        Also, no matter what the microplastic impact on the environment is less than a mouse made in a factory thar doesn't pay attention to any of its air quality standards.

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                        Gotcha. Thanks for the type up!

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                        • R [email protected]

                          need to take it real old, print it in abs and do a vapor smoothing in acetone.

                          You could also print this in a goo printer and not have the issue.

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                          Interesting. I always wondered if the same rule applied to the 'goo' type as my friend has one.

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                            Interesting. I always wondered if the same rule applied to the 'goo' type as my friend has one.

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                            They definitely don't shed much when they're new. They're quite playable and don't sand easily

                            Now you leave it in the sun for a year, they do get brittle, I suspect at that point you might be able to sand them on a table surface.

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                            • eletes@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                              The adult toys community would have some guides. You print the object, cast the mold around it and then fill the void with silicone afaik.

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                              Is silicone rigid enough? Adult toys have slightly different requirements from many other 3D printed things.

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                                I couldn't agree more. I also hate when mice or keyboards can not be easily disassembled to be properly cleaned. In this case I guess it's a matter of printing precision and/or material (don't have my own printing experience, so maybe somebody else can comment on it)

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                                Maybe you could vapour-smooth it.

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                                  That may be technically true, but what's stopping someone from using the same button on a regular mouse?

                                  A regular mouse can have a large amount of movement with your elbow and very fine control with your wrist. Your thumb on a trackball may have more range or precision than either, but not both combined.

                                  My personal experience is that a trackball mouse is a little less accurate when trying to move a large distance precisely. Perhaps I just need more practice.

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                                  Do you have a button in your regular mouse that enables precision mode?

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                                    Do you have a button in your regular mouse that enables precision mode?

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                                    I don't personally have a regular mouse, but most "gamer" mice have a DPI button.

                                    I have seen several pro gamers use the DPI button on their mouse to rapidly change their precision while playing. I suspect it would take more practice than I'm willing to put in, but they seem to use it to great effect.

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