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Open source computer mouse by Ploopy

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  • lyra_lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

    These jokers are charging $130CAD for a mouse, what in the fuck

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    How much should it be? It uses a great sensor, Omron main switches, it's built by two guys in Toronto, Canada where rent isn't cheap. There're definitely cheaper massproduced mice that don't share IP for free. This isn't that.

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    • dumnezero@piefed.socialD [email protected]

      You need plastic that is more resistant to contact so that you don't end up covering your hand in microplastics. That material looks like questionable recycled plastics.

      I'm also not giving up on wireless. I'd rather have an only bluetooth (slow?) mouse than a wired one.

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      All the 3d printed parts have files available online. You can 3d print new parts using any material you want.

      As far as I'm aware, PLA is mostly safe, but every company has different proprietary additives.

      Something plant based like cellulose would be nice. Longevity wouldn't be a concern with how easy it is to reprint and reassemble.

      Wireless would be nice.

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        I bought a Ploopy Thumb a few years ago. I assembled it myself, and was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was (when actually following the instructions).

        The small button on the right has broken twice, which wasn't a problem because I just downloaded the stl file and reprinted the button assembly.

        I wanted horizontal scrolling, so I used QMK to make the trackball a scroll wheel when the right side button is pressed (that may explain the faster button wear). It was surprisingly easy, and there was even a comment in the source code pointing out which line I should modify for horizontal scrolling support. I guess they expected people to want this feature.

        The price is high, but I don't expect to buy another mouse unless my needs change. The open source hardware and software is excellent, making repairability 10/10. The edges of the buttons are slightly rough, but I have the 3d printing files, so I get to choose what material it's made of and what post processing / smoothing is used. It hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it.

        While I can't recommend a trackball mouse to anyone, I can recommend Ploopy. It's one of the few products that I feel like I actually own.

        Ploopy Thumb next to a keyboard

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        How'd you make the surface this smooth?

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          All the 3d printed parts have files available online. You can 3d print new parts using any material you want.

          As far as I'm aware, PLA is mostly safe, but every company has different proprietary additives.

          Something plant based like cellulose would be nice. Longevity wouldn't be a concern with how easy it is to reprint and reassemble.

          Wireless would be nice.

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          Or titanium? But that would probably require midifications of the bendy bits to keep them flexible. 😂

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          • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

            How'd you make the surface this smooth?

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            Overuse and poor lighting.

            I know some people have used an acetone vapor bath with ABS prints. I've never looked into what works with PLA.

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            • lyra_lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

              These jokers are charging $130CAD for a mouse, what in the fuck

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              #22

              It's hand crafted, they probably barely breakeven.

              Go ask Logitech if they will share blueprints or spend 0.10$ extra for a button that survives more than 100'000 clicks

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                Overuse and poor lighting.

                I know some people have used an acetone vapor bath with ABS prints. I've never looked into what works with PLA.

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                LOL, makes sense. I'm considering using epoxy. Seems like there's a product that can be brushed on. It fills the gaps. Can be painted if desired.

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                  Is it comfortable in the hand? The surface looks super rough

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                  Only as good as your 3d printer and settings I'd say

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                  • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                    LOL, makes sense. I'm considering using epoxy. Seems like there's a product that can be brushed on. It fills the gaps. Can be painted if desired.

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                    I'd be interested to see how well it works.

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                      It's hand crafted, they probably barely breakeven.

                      Go ask Logitech if they will share blueprints or spend 0.10$ extra for a button that survives more than 100'000 clicks

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                      I have a Logitech from 2003 or so. The feet are gone. The plastic under the feet is rubbed rmooth. The Omron switches are still great, no failure symptoms. Meanwhile I replaced a G500 after couple of years of use due to a switch developing "double-click" from wear. The reason I needed another wired mouse now is that another Logitech developed double-clicking. So yeah, exactly.

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                        I'd be interested to see how well it works.

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                        I'll try to remember to post if I end up doing it.

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                        • lyra_lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                          These jokers are charging $130CAD for a mouse, what in the fuck

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                          You don't need to pay them anything.

                          You can just download all the files they've made available and build one yourself. The electronics have full schematics so you can either make it yourself or send the schematics to a PCB company. The shell is entirely 3d printed. All extra hardware is readily available.

                          If that sounds like a lot of work, maybe it's worth paying the person who created it and is offering to do all that work for you.

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                          • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                            I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                            The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                            Here's another shot of it:

                            A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                            How do you like the mouse? I got their trackpad and it's pretty good. I'm thinking about replacing my old Mx Master with their mouse.

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                              I have a Logitech from 2003 or so. The feet are gone. The plastic under the feet is rubbed rmooth. The Omron switches are still great, no failure symptoms. Meanwhile I replaced a G500 after couple of years of use due to a switch developing "double-click" from wear. The reason I needed another wired mouse now is that another Logitech developed double-clicking. So yeah, exactly.

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                              I have a 2 year old MX Master 3S, the left click button can't dragndrop anymore without dropping, unless you press really hard on it.
                              Also I can't rebind the buttons without having Logitech spyware installed on my computer.
                              Changing the button requires soldering and deep disassembly.
                              For a 120$USD mouse this sucks !

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                              • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                                The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                                Here's another shot of it:

                                A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                                No left hand options 😪

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                                  No left hand options 😪

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                                  Just turn the printer upside down, dummy!

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                                  • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                    I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                                    The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                                    Here's another shot of it:

                                    A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                                    I want one

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                                      Overuse and poor lighting.

                                      I know some people have used an acetone vapor bath with ABS prints. I've never looked into what works with PLA.

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                                      Just to save the heartache, acetone vapor does not work with pla.

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                                      • lightrush@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                        I needed another corded mouse and this time around I thought of @[email protected] and @[email protected] instead of Logitech's shareholders. These guys make open source mice among other open source hardware under the brand Ploopy. You can order one from them, assembled or as a kit, or you could print and build it entirely by yourself.

                                        The mouse itself is pretty great. Coming from a long line of Logitech (MX518/G5/G500/G502), it's a bit larger than what I'm used to but I think I'm getting accustomed to it.

                                        Here's another shot of it:

                                        A picture of a computer mouse by Ploopy.

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                                        Layer lines, too expensive.

                                        Looks less comfortable than one of those 10~15€ brandless mouses at MediaMarkt

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                                          All Ploopy's stuff looks rough. I think they're 3D-printing them. Maybe one day they'll progress to something that gives a nicer result.

                                          I was looking at their trackballs but the ambidextrous ones look awkwardly tiny and have rattly bearings, in addition to the rough finish. I support what they're doing but I wish the products were a bit less prototypey.

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                                          I think they're 3D-printing them. Maybe one day they'll progress to something that gives a nicer result

                                          Yes they are 3D printed

                                          Poorly 3D printed.

                                          The layering issue could be solved by orienting the object at a 45° angle

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