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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • M [email protected]

    There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.

    By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I'd happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.

    I don't want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.

    If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can't see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.

    Well.. Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we'll see

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    I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

    Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

    God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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    • kat@orbi.campK [email protected]

      As an engineer with almost 2 decades of experience (including streaming sites)... It is.

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      Well, we'd have to be more specific about what parts of the "user experience" we're talking about here in order to make that assessment.

      I'm mostly talking about discoverability, the default algorithms, the lack of federation, and a way to actually filter content by language.

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        Sounds like you don't need cloud storage then.

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        Except I do, because I don't have off site storage. 3-2-1 my friend. If my house burnt down, without the cloud storage I'd lose everything. Separate local copies is good for defending against disk failure.

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          A real alternative to YouTube would be so good right now.

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            Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation

            I mean this is just them making official how they've been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women's issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube's rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube's TOS

            Companies are not your friend.

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            #114

            Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn't van him.
            This is the channel of the Nazi:
            https://youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA

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            • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

              dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock.

              Oh, so it's just wall street dick sucking and pretending the whole "market" isn't just a rigged game? Counts as right-wing slop to me.

              Is that the platforms fault?

              Considering we have a fuck-ton of evidence from research that it isn't just what other people watch that determines it: Yes, it is actually. Sorry these aren't fucking videos so that you'll actually pay attention to them.

              https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/youtube-video-recommendations-lead-more-extremist-content-right-leaning-users-researchers

              https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3351095.3372879

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              Dude chill out, why are you so angry? I merely pointed out that one of the videos does not support your claims and suggested an alternative hypothesis

              Sorry for upsetting you with discussion hot damn

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                This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky's official server.

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                  This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky's official server.

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                  I dont see Bluesky going down the enshittification path thát fast

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                    The popular YouTubers are trash tho

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                    Nebula doesn't have that kind of 'popular' YouTubers, it's a creator-made platform that's more focused on science and documentary channels. I don't think I've seen anything on Nebula even remotely related to gaming.

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                      I dont see Bluesky going down the enshittification path thát fast

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                      Hopefully. If Youtube did it, who's to say now that Bluesky may or may not jump ship? It's an industry. However, i'm mainly pointing at the main server, other servers on Bluesky might not jump ship so fast, or not at all (ideally).

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                        Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.

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                        Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Invidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.

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                          "Don't Be Evil"

                          (I know this hasn't been the Google motto in years -- when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)

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                            Good.

                            Let people say what they want and you can ignore them if you don't like what's being said.

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                            I recommend you take strides to learn how propaganda works, most specifically the purpose of shifting opinion (i.e. the Overton Window): "I'm just asking questions" and "I'll let anyone speak" are two of the most effective methods of propaganda.

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                              Some of those, particularly Odysee and Rumble have much worse Nazis. They are the platforms of choice for British National Socialist Movement and Patriotic Alternative.

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                              Yeah rumble is made by and for Nazis.

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                                "Don't Be Evil"

                                (I know this hasn't been the Google motto in years -- when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)

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                                Google now reserves the right to "be evil".

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                                  Google now reserves the right to "be evil".

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                                  It's right there in the TOS! /s

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                                    Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn't van him.
                                    This is the channel of the Nazi:
                                    https://youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA

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                                    Wish I could say I'm surprised, but I've had this exact thing happen to me several times. Sometimes they've even had slurs in their profile image or banner too.

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                                    • undergroundgoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.comU [email protected]

                                      Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Invidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.

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                                      Thanks. I can def do that on my phone. Don’t know much about how to do it on Apple TVs or Rokus but I very seldom use them for YouTube anymore anyway.

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                                      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.orgC [email protected]

                                        I recommend you take strides to learn how propaganda works, most specifically the purpose of shifting opinion (i.e. the Overton Window): "I'm just asking questions" and "I'll let anyone speak" are two of the most effective methods of propaganda.

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                                        Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don't like.

                                        You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they're allowed to share with others.

                                        You are going to grasp at whatever straw you can to get rid of people saying things you don't like.

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                                          Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don't like.

                                          You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they're allowed to share with others.

                                          You are going to grasp at whatever straw you can to get rid of people saying things you don't like.

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                                          Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don't like.

                                          This is a natural result of media controlled by corporate interests. It's also a misunderstanding of "free speech" -- even when you are free to say what you will, it does not mean you are free from the consequences of that speech.

                                          You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they're allowed to share with others.

                                          Again, I suggest looking into how propaganda works. Letting everyone speak about anything (without vetting of topic, qualifications, or direction) has consequences. We are seeing those consequences now and will continue to see more as the propaganda machine runs wild on the back of "let everyone speak".

                                          Your view of this is overly simplistic and I am, in the most polite way, attempting to direct you to self improvement. It is a common issue at the moment across all discourse -- probably vestigial of the information sharing capabilities now available.

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