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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • kat@orbi.campK [email protected]

    Easier said than done. Reason after all these years it still hasn't been addressed.

    ulrich@feddit.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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    I really don't think it is.

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    • B [email protected]

      They are already there, and someone is paying for the storage and bandwidth for what's already there. Asking for random people to start pulling videos from YouTube and uploading them to someone else's server is going to very quickly make that server go away.

      And yes, I have tried Peertube. My experience is when I click a Peertube link from Lemmy, 9/10 it is a dead link.

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      #78

      Newest version of lemmy fixed this quite well. Take a look: https://lemmy.world/post/27751672

      Old lemmy broke a lot of activityhub stuff unfortunately.

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      • I [email protected]

        If I'm using YT as cloud backup storage for hundreds of hours of video that is unlisted, unmonetized, how am I helping them trample rights?

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        Their ability to trample rights because of how much profit they make from horrible content is directly related to their ability to give you that space for free.

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        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

          Some content lends itself well to written format. Lots of content does not.

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          absolutely agree. i just wanted to point out that not everything has to be a video

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          • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

            It's not an easy answer, but the best way I've found so far is to use GrayJay.

            If I find that one of the content creators I follow on YouTube happen to post their content on any other platform, I switch my subscription to that platform.

            Besides YouTube they support Nebula, Twitch, Odysee, PeerTube, Dailymotion, Bitchute, Kick, BiliBili, Rumble, Patreon, and more.

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            Some of those, particularly Odysee and Rumble have much worse Nazis. They are the platforms of choice for British National Socialist Movement and Patriotic Alternative.

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            • I [email protected]

              Not just catalog for viewing. What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free? I have hundreds of hours of stuff uploaded there.

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              #82

              What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?

              None. YouTube included.

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              • ? Guest

                Does this mean users won't be able to see videos hosted on other platforms from your instance?

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                Thats a good question.

                No it still allows you to see their videos, it just does not create a copy. Its just a passthough.

                EX:

                • https://videos.abnormalbeings.space/w/k7oGP4hkGWMx2oJxpw6KUd which is being passed though
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                • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                  So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

                  Because a lot of the time, it's weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

                  The dude has been in the driver's seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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                  list of CEOs that suck?

                  Isn't that simply called CEO list?

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                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                    Try again to make yourself feel okay about heavily using a service that is happily allowing hate speech against gender identity. I don't have any subscriptions and I rarely watch youtube because I can fucking read.

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                    #85

                    You do you, if you want to read go ahead. You are just entirely missing the point and just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived in your "unbroken" brain.

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                    • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

                      What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?

                      None. YouTube included.

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                      #86

                      I mean, I do use YT as cloud storage for free. And before you say the "nothing is free line," note my other replies.

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                      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                        Stop using youtube.

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                        #87

                        Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.

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                        • I [email protected]

                          I mean, I do use YT as cloud storage for free. And before you say the "nothing is free line," note my other replies.

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                          Nope. The admin of sh.itjust.works lets you use their storage for free. Google does not.

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                          • thegreenwizard@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                            If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn't replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.

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                            The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              list of CEOs that suck?

                              Isn't that simply called CEO list?

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                              #90

                              True, true

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                              • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                Don't forget current Youtube CEO Neal Mohan and former Youtube CEO Susan Wojcicki!

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                                Damn we were eating good with Susan, comparitivly speaking anyway.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  Peertube is the obvious candidate, but I'm not sold on the content.

                                  I use nebula.tv, many of the creators I like are there too. You pay somerhing, but their business model is not too bad imho.

                                  Floatplane is somewhat similar, but LMG is involved, which I don't love.

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                                  What's wrong with LMG?

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                                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                    Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.

                                    The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.

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                                    Wow your YouTube recommendations are very different from mine.

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                                    • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                                      Wow your YouTube recommendations are very different from mine.

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                                      I have watch history disabled

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        You do you, if you want to read go ahead. You are just entirely missing the point and just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived in your "unbroken" brain.

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                                        just because you watch slop and it’s associated recommendations

                                        just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived

                                        Try harder to not be a fucking hypocrite, dude.

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                                        • thegreenwizard@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                                          If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn't replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.

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                                          Yep that would be nice! Yunohost can make it pretty easy to install for those of us who self host. Plus this is the fediverse. Totally agree!

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