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    I was thinking of getting this but the focus is mainly for fitness. I think a garmin would be better for my purpose though because I honestly don't know what I would do with this watch

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      Price seems kinda steep for a device that doesn't have sleep/SpO2/Stress and HRV tracking capabilities

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      As someone very excited for this watch, the battery life with an always on display is more important to me than a sp02 sensor (Btw it will do sleep tracking). That and the button navigation are the killer features. The watch shows me what I need to know when I need to know it, always has the time on, and I can navigate it and control media playback without having to look at it (since buttons are consistent). I want a smart watch to be a good watch first then being smart is the second priority, and the pebble is the only watch I've ever had that gets those priorities right for me. Every other smart watch I've used sacrifices something I value to fit more features that I dont value as much. The pebbles have just gotten it right for me.

      That said, the watch also isn't for everyone, and a lot of people are OK charging their watch every day if it means they also get every feature they want.

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        As someone very excited for this watch, the battery life with an always on display is more important to me than a sp02 sensor (Btw it will do sleep tracking). That and the button navigation are the killer features. The watch shows me what I need to know when I need to know it, always has the time on, and I can navigate it and control media playback without having to look at it (since buttons are consistent). I want a smart watch to be a good watch first then being smart is the second priority, and the pebble is the only watch I've ever had that gets those priorities right for me. Every other smart watch I've used sacrifices something I value to fit more features that I dont value as much. The pebbles have just gotten it right for me.

        That said, the watch also isn't for everyone, and a lot of people are OK charging their watch every day if it means they also get every feature they want.

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        Regarding charging - I charge my huawei watch fit 3 (that I got for like $150) every 2 weeks or so

        I probably will end up getting the pebble as it appears I can interact with it on home assistant. Rough that I may have to wait till December though, it looks like

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          Pebble is now playing a gambit, whereby they think they will sell more of the premium model to people who will be using it for exercise and health reasons.

          There's an explicit line in their site that says these are not made to be fitness trackers, and that garmin are good for that (or some other brand, can't remember). It would be very odd to say that if it was their target.

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          Dammit, I wanted to use this as a fitness tracker like garmin

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            Because that's the feature people actually want. The biggest use of these watches is having an active heart rate monitor, as evident by even most of the cheaper watches having them.

            Pebble is now playing a gambit, whereby they think they will sell more of the premium model to people who will be using it for exercise and health reasons.

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            Because that's the feature people actually want. The biggest use of these watches is having an active heart rate monitor, as evident by even most of the cheaper watches having them.

            Seriously, even my $30 PineTime has a heart rate monitor.

            I've never once used a compass on my watch, mostly because the phone it's attached to is a much better compass and even has its own barometer built-in. Plus it's a pain to use a compass on a watch because you have to hold your whole arm up.

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              There are a couple already, e.g. https://github.com/Willow-Systems/pebble-home-assistant

              What's even cooler is that the nRF52840 chip that they will use has ZigBee support, which theoretically means it can talk to your network directly if software supports it

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              No way! That's awesome, I will absolutely be checking that out

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                This is neat but the selling point for me with the Pebble is the e-ink display. If repebble fails though, my next watch will be a Pine. Hopefully my Versa 2 holds on for a bit longer šŸ¤ž

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                You should just get one anyway. It's $30.

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                  I was thinking of getting this but the focus is mainly for fitness. I think a garmin would be better for my purpose though because I honestly don't know what I would do with this watch

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                  Idk if garmin allows you to download your data in an easily accessible format but I would expect Pebble to do it and I expect a nice ecosystem of user-created apps based on that

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                  • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]
                    • 30-day battery life
                    • open source OS

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                    Open Source ā€œOSā€ ? Did they intentionally forget a statement or two around someone else’s IP ?

                    Anyone of the github contributors care to explain what their repo is about and it’s recent README commit:
                    https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-nonfree

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                      Open Source ā€œOSā€ ? Did they intentionally forget a statement or two around someone else’s IP ?

                      Anyone of the github contributors care to explain what their repo is about and it’s recent README commit:
                      https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-nonfree

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                      Likely binary blobs from vendors like Debian's non-free-firmware.

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                        as much as I loved the original Pebbles (and love the design of these too), I think basically the world has moved on... for this kind of money, I am buying a Garmin watch with GPS, HR, etc.
                        but I hope there will be a group of enthusiasts and wish all the luck to the company with sales. more options are always better šŸ™‚

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                        I haven't moved on. Pebble Time Steel was the best watch I've ever had. I've been using Fitbit since the death of Pebble and they never got as good as Pebble was. If Repebble hadn't shown up, I'd probably be going Garmin after the inevitable death of Fitbit. But now that the choice is between Garmin and a hackable open source Pebble with 30 days of battery life... Repebble wins for me. ā˜ŗļø

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                          I'm with you on this. If it could come with a privacy-respecting smartphone app hosted on F-Droid, that would be so great.

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                          Gadgetbridge supports pebble

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                            Likely binary blobs from vendors like Debian's non-free-firmware.

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                            We will see, unless there is an ā€œofficialā€ announcement of some sort for the exacts contents of that github repo prior to preorder closing.

                            The current README contents do not do justice.

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                              I was thinking of getting this but the focus is mainly for fitness. I think a garmin would be better for my purpose though because I honestly don't know what I would do with this watch

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                              Yeah for the same price as the color option you could get a Garmin Vivoactive​ on a sale.

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                                He also screwed a lot of the employees on the way out from Pebble, and he also bailed on Beeper the minute it got complicated. Sold it to Matt Mullenweg a year or two after getting pimp-slapped by Apple because he had no real plan for what to do if Apple started banning the devices he was using as Matrix bridges. He gave up after like three days, it was honestly genuinely pathetic. This was a paid service and he fucked it all up for anyone using iMessage on it.

                                I have personal experiences with Beeper that make me less than trust Eric Migicovsky, and I really don't think he seems like a "nice guy." He actively sucks, doesn't have plans for sustainability and then sells it all off to someone else at a personal profit while the people doing the actual work get fucked out of a job.

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                                What's the gist of your "personal experiences with Beeper"?

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                                  What's the gist of your "personal experiences with Beeper"?

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                                  I was very excited when Beeper was first announced and I got on the wait list.

                                  I finally got onboarded, and this was when you still had be walked through the setup by one of the Beeper employees.

                                  I got into the Zoom meeting, and got a warning that it was going to be recorded. I had not, up to that point, had ever been disclosed that it was going to be recorded. I declined to join the meeting and sent a follow-up email with some pertinent privacy related questions, especially since in the case of some of the Bridges that were being used for this service essentially meant Beeper would have access to my credentials. They would later create a more secure system, but it was not very secure early on.

                                  My main question regarded Micigovsky's past in selling Pebble and I asked what gaurantees of the privacy policy were being made in regard to a potential sale of the company (considering it eventually got sold, I guess a good question to ask), and what, if any, promises were being made for the privacy policy to stay unchanged through a sale.

                                  I never got a response to my questions. Not being told I was going to be recorded, and not ever getting an answer to reasonable privacy policy questions led me to never signing up for the service.

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                                    Gadgetbridge supports pebble

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                                    Awesome!

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                                      We will see, unless there is an ā€œofficialā€ announcement of some sort for the exacts contents of that github repo prior to preorder closing.

                                      The current README contents do not do justice.

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                                      You do you, but the OS is here.

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                                        Dammit, I wanted to use this as a fitness tracker like garmin

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                                        For fitness its probably decent but Garmin seems to have placebo sleep tracking. In order to get anything remotely accurate the sleep tracking algorithm has to be compared to a lot of polysomnograph data. But because companies don't want to spend any more than they need to sleep tracking is usually just tacked on. Garmin hasn't shown a good track record in this regard.

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                                          I haven't moved on. Pebble Time Steel was the best watch I've ever had. I've been using Fitbit since the death of Pebble and they never got as good as Pebble was. If Repebble hadn't shown up, I'd probably be going Garmin after the inevitable death of Fitbit. But now that the choice is between Garmin and a hackable open source Pebble with 30 days of battery life... Repebble wins for me. ā˜ŗļø

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                                          Fitbit was pretty bad. My wife had it and after the 3rd rma she just didn't bother anymore.

                                          I have a PineTime now and she basically claimed it as her own so I'm back to wearing analog watches.

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