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    They all say 150.000 which is tens of thousands and not hundreds of thounds. Its an impressive number no need to pretend its more. That just makes the news outlet look bad

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    Tens of thousands is 15,000. Hundreds of thousands is 150,000.

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

      Hundreds of thousands of people dressed in red marched through the streets of The Hague on Sunday to demand more action against the "genocide" in Gaza.

      NGOs such as Amnesty International, Save the Children, Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders), and Oxfam organized the demonstration, which ran through the city to the International Court of Justice. The protesters were all dressed in red, creating a "red line".

      Organisers described it as the country's largest demonstration in two decades. Many waving Palestinian flags and some chanting "Stop the Genocide", the demonstrators turned a central park in the city into a sea of red on a sunny afternoon.

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      There's a video around of a drone covering the length of the group, it took it like a minute of flying straight through to cover (what that video said) was around 150,000 people. Wonderful to see.

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      • P [email protected]

        Tens of thousands is 15,000. Hundreds of thousands is 150,000.

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        I would understand hundreds of thousands starts at 200.000. At this logic 100.001 would already be hundreds of thousands, what makes no sense to me. But yeah, maybe its not that important as I made to be in my first comment.

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        • akasazh@feddit.nlA [email protected]

          I was reacting to you saying:

          that would mean that half of the city. Thats definitely fake news

          People came from all over the Netherlands, it's not a big commute to take. In 1983 555.000 people protested against nuclear weapons. That was back when there where 4 million fewer people in the country. So 150.000 is far from impossible.

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          I didn't mean that 150.000 is impossible. I meant that 150.000 is not hundreds of thousands. That would only start at a full multiple of 100.000. But as I also wrote below by now, its probably not as important as I took it in my first comment

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            If the numbers of 4-6 million are true then less than 2% of Americans showed up. The pictures of big crowds was impressive, but that's not enough. To the outside world, it looks like you have bowed down.

            Take inspiration from this protest in The Netherlands and chastise your neighbours, your colleagues, your friends and family, to march, or this time next year America may just be a fully fledged fascist state with no personal freedom.

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            Two percent of the population is actually pretty huge. Historically, 3.5% has been the threshold after which change has almost always happened.

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            • C [email protected]

              Why bring America to the discussion, if its about a protest in Europe about a war in Asia?

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              ...protest in Europe about a war in Asia?

              I don't think the Middle East is part of Asia

              EDIT: I'm stupid “Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a country in West Asia.”

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                ...protest in Europe about a war in Asia?

                I don't think the Middle East is part of Asia

                EDIT: I'm stupid “Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a country in West Asia.”

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                What continent do you think it is, if not Asia? 😄

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                • C [email protected]

                  Why bring America to the discussion, if its about a protest in Europe about a war in Asia?

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                  I agree with you but it’s a theme on Lemmy. Every story is linked back to America somehow (however tenuous) and I’m finding it frustrating to say the least. Even with blocking all US subs, the comments still circle back to American politics. It’s like Americans believe themselves to be the centre of the universe or something. They just cannot help making every story about them; the main character syndrome is through the roof

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                  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                    Hundreds of thousands of people dressed in red marched through the streets of The Hague on Sunday to demand more action against the "genocide" in Gaza.

                    NGOs such as Amnesty International, Save the Children, Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders), and Oxfam organized the demonstration, which ran through the city to the International Court of Justice. The protesters were all dressed in red, creating a "red line".

                    Organisers described it as the country's largest demonstration in two decades. Many waving Palestinian flags and some chanting "Stop the Genocide", the demonstrators turned a central park in the city into a sea of red on a sunny afternoon.

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                    Unfortunately, the EU is nothing more than a cesspool of wannabe fascists in the pay of American-Zionist barbarism. It will do nothing for Gaza.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      I didn't mean that 150.000 is impossible. I meant that 150.000 is not hundreds of thousands. That would only start at a full multiple of 100.000. But as I also wrote below by now, its probably not as important as I took it in my first comment

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                      Aha that I can see. It's a bit semantically difficult as saying tens of thousands instead is a bit diminutive.

                      But a demonstration of multiple of hundred thousand people is not unheard of, for example the 1983 example.

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                      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                        That's a protest that might actually accomplish something.

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                        How? We’ve been doing this for almost 2 years and the genocide is still ongoing

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                          How? We’ve been doing this for almost 2 years and the genocide is still ongoing

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                          Protesting the wrong people. If the Hague enacts war crimes tribunals, takes Netanyahu and all of Likud into custody, it ends.

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                            I really question the hundreds of thousands, in a city of half a million of people - that would mean that half of the city. Thats definitely fake news. Even in the picture if the article it says suddenly tens of thousands. Sounds all a bit fish tbh

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                            The Randstad has over 8 million people that can all stand in Hague within ~1 hour or so. On top of that it's organised by four major organisations that has mobilised people even outside of the Netherlands. I see no reason to doubt this.

                            Lovely to see.

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                              How? We’ve been doing this for almost 2 years and the genocide is still ongoing

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                              Ahh but you see, if the world's leaders sit idly by for another few years until there aren't any Palestinian people left, they'll be able to say "look the genocide has ended, we did it!". All without having to even lift a finger to write a mildly worded letter.

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                                I really question the hundreds of thousands, in a city of half a million of people - that would mean that half of the city. Thats definitely fake news. Even in the picture if the article it says suddenly tens of thousands. Sounds all a bit fish tbh

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                                Lol you know people can like move around. Also, it's a Commuter City. Meaning kinda like NYC, during the day the number of people inside the city during the day is magnitudes grater than the cities offical population number. Grow up

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                                  If the numbers of 4-6 million are true then less than 2% of Americans showed up. The pictures of big crowds was impressive, but that's not enough. To the outside world, it looks like you have bowed down.

                                  Take inspiration from this protest in The Netherlands and chastise your neighbours, your colleagues, your friends and family, to march, or this time next year America may just be a fully fledged fascist state with no personal freedom.

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                                  150,000 is 0.8% of the population of the Netherlands, and isolated to a single location. The American protests were far bigger, so I don't know what you want them to learn from this.

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                                    Two percent of the population is actually pretty huge. Historically, 3.5% has been the threshold after which change has almost always happened.

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                                    Less than 2%. So at the moment, by your threshold, no change. America is still on the path of fascism.

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                                      150,000 is 0.8% of the population of the Netherlands, and isolated to a single location. The American protests were far bigger, so I don't know what you want them to learn from this.

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                                      For an issue that doesn't effect the Dutch. And yet they still showed up in solidarity, because they have principles, and understand that to live in a democratic country means taking responsibility for its politics and not just voting every 4-5 years.

                                      Americans are being kidnapped, assassinated, and having entire departments shut down, and their turnout isn't much better than the Dutch outraged at what's happening another continent away.

                                      I want them to learn that if they want change they need to do something, instead of giving every excuse under the sun as to why they couldn't show up as has been done in other threads.

                                      This is a good start I guess, but it hasn't done anything to stop Trump and co yet. They need to pump those numbers up.

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                                        For an issue that doesn't effect the Dutch. And yet they still showed up in solidarity, because they have principles, and understand that to live in a democratic country means taking responsibility for its politics and not just voting every 4-5 years.

                                        Americans are being kidnapped, assassinated, and having entire departments shut down, and their turnout isn't much better than the Dutch outraged at what's happening another continent away.

                                        I want them to learn that if they want change they need to do something, instead of giving every excuse under the sun as to why they couldn't show up as has been done in other threads.

                                        This is a good start I guess, but it hasn't done anything to stop Trump and co yet. They need to pump those numbers up.

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                                        4-6 million isn't much better than 150,000? If we go by percentages of the population, it's more than 3 times higher. If we go by numbers of attendees, it's something like 30x higher. Also, remember that American college campuses have been protesting this since it began, often resulting in students getting expelled or deported. Sorry that's not good enough for you.

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                                          4-6 million isn't much better than 150,000? If we go by percentages of the population, it's more than 3 times higher. If we go by numbers of attendees, it's something like 30x higher. Also, remember that American college campuses have been protesting this since it began, often resulting in students getting expelled or deported. Sorry that's not good enough for you.

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                                          1.18 - 1.76% of Americans showed up to protest fascism in their own country.

                                          0.82 - 1.09% of Dutch showed up to protest genocide thousands of miles away.

                                          If you can't understand how there's a difference here, between standing up for yourself and standing up for others, I don't know what else to say.

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