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Danish PM accuses US of ‘unacceptable pressure’ over planned Greenland visit

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      Greenland can refuse them entry.

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        Greenland can refuse them entry.

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        Are you sure? Greenland and USA have had a very special agreement since 1951. I am not sure that this is the case.

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          Greenland can refuse them entry.

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          50,000 people live in Greenland. I mean it literally when I say I don't believe they can.

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            50,000 people live in Greenland. I mean it literally when I say I don't believe they can.

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            Canadians can be refused entry to America based on the border guards not believing what we say about anything.

            Every nation/group of nations (ie: the EU) has border guards who can refuse non-citzens entry, so ofc they can.

            But rn it's a game of chess. Is Greenland willing to pay the cost of refusal, because knowing who and what Trump is means the cost could be big.

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              Are you sure? Greenland and USA have had a very special agreement since 1951. I am not sure that this is the case.

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              Surely they can cavity search them, force them to ublock all their tech and leave them in a freezing cell with a hole in the ground for a toilet for a few days?

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                My understanding is that buying Greenland has been a long-standing Trump goal. I watched an interview with John Bolton where he was talking about how Trump kept bringing it up during Trump's first term. And it's something that a few past US administrations have made efforts toward as well.

                Problem is, as Bolton also pointed out, Trump is doing a really effective job of undermining any effort to do so by being abrasive as all hell. Greenland's a democracy. Denmark's a democracy. You can't go piss everyone off and then have any chance of making such a purchase. Not how things work.

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                  Simply deny them each and any official contact. Then they will have to pay the trip out of their own pocket.

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                    Surely they can cavity search them, force them to ublock all their tech and leave them in a freezing cell with a hole in the ground for a toilet for a few days?

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                    Yeah except the people of Greenland aren't horrible fucking monsters.

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                      Just refuse them at the border. Problem solved.

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                        Just refuse them at the border. Problem solved.

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                        This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.

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                          My understanding is that buying Greenland has been a long-standing Trump goal. I watched an interview with John Bolton where he was talking about how Trump kept bringing it up during Trump's first term. And it's something that a few past US administrations have made efforts toward as well.

                          Problem is, as Bolton also pointed out, Trump is doing a really effective job of undermining any effort to do so by being abrasive as all hell. Greenland's a democracy. Denmark's a democracy. You can't go piss everyone off and then have any chance of making such a purchase. Not how things work.

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                          No means no.. but rapists don't understand this

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                            Canadians can be refused entry to America based on the border guards not believing what we say about anything.

                            Every nation/group of nations (ie: the EU) has border guards who can refuse non-citzens entry, so ofc they can.

                            But rn it's a game of chess. Is Greenland willing to pay the cost of refusal, because knowing who and what Trump is means the cost could be big.

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                            Usa was granted free access to greenmal in 1951 and were allowed to build military bases without even telling Denmark what they are up to. It is more complicated than just closing the door on them

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                              This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.

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                              The US is breaking a shitload of their agreements globally with everyone and their dog at the minute, they can get fucked.

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                                The US is breaking a shitload of their agreements globally with everyone and their dog at the minute, they can get fucked.

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                                Sure, but they should do it properly e.g. officially rescind these agreements (I'm sure there's a process for that).

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                                  Sure, but they should do it properly e.g. officially rescind these agreements (I'm sure there's a process for that).

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                                  Why?

                                  Maintaining "decorum" is the entire reason we're in this mess to begin with.

                                  You give these asshats an inch, they run a mile with it and demand to know why you didn't let them run 10 miles since you already let them run one mile.

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                                    This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.

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                                    They can refuse any meetings in Greenland they try to hold though.

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                                      My understanding is that buying Greenland has been a long-standing Trump goal. I watched an interview with John Bolton where he was talking about how Trump kept bringing it up during Trump's first term. And it's something that a few past US administrations have made efforts toward as well.

                                      Problem is, as Bolton also pointed out, Trump is doing a really effective job of undermining any effort to do so by being abrasive as all hell. Greenland's a democracy. Denmark's a democracy. You can't go piss everyone off and then have any chance of making such a purchase. Not how things work.

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                                      "Buy" Trump doesn't pay his debts he will not be buying the country if he is for real. He will take it by force.

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                                        Yeah except the people of Greenland aren't horrible fucking monsters.

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                                        That's unfortunate for them, because being confronted with even bigger horrible fucking monsters is the only thing the bullies and thugs of the Trump regime respond to.

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                                          Why?

                                          Maintaining "decorum" is the entire reason we're in this mess to begin with.

                                          You give these asshats an inch, they run a mile with it and demand to know why you didn't let them run 10 miles since you already let them run one mile.

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                                          I don't care about "these asshats" but I really don't want my governments to engage in a diplomatic race to the bottom or to start disregarding their own agreements willy nilly, it's just not a good precedent. Also an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind and all that. I understand that might be easy for me to say from a somewhat outside perspective but really, nothing good will come from doing this kind of stupid shit, we need to keep our heads high, respect the rules we agreed on and generally make sure we keep everything kosher, that's the only long term play and the only way we can maintain trust from the rest of our allies. Otherwise we're just like them.

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