Danish PM accuses US of ‘unacceptable pressure’ over planned Greenland visit
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I understand what you are saying, but context matters as well, and has superseded bureaucracy depending on the situation historically.
Poland never formally declared war on Germany in response to the invasion on September 1, 1939, do you think badly of Poland for this because they didn't "properly" declare war before trying to fight back?
I am doubtful, because the context matters to you in understanding what they were doing, and why they were doing it.
That's fair, and I do agree in extreme circumstances decisions might need to be taken without having the time or resources to follow process, but we better choose those moments very fucking carefully. An invasion would qualify, this "visit" would not, imo.
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That's fair, and I do agree in extreme circumstances decisions might need to be taken without having the time or resources to follow process, but we better choose those moments very fucking carefully. An invasion would qualify, this "visit" would not, imo.
Yes, what you said is fair as well. I think we have reached a mutually positive conclusion then. Have a good day.
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Yes, what you said is fair as well. I think we have reached a mutually positive conclusion then. Have a good day.
Love it when that happens
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That's unfortunate for them, because being confronted with even bigger horrible fucking monsters is the only thing the bullies and thugs of the Trump regime respond to.
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This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.
In reading the 1951 agreement it is specifically aimed at the following ...
armed forces of the parties to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization may make use of facilities in Greenland in defense of Greenland and the rest of the North Atlantic Treaty area Source
DJ Vance, Usha Vance, the vice president's wife, White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright will visit, but noneof them are current military members.
It would seem they can be refused according to your reference point.
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This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.
This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.
Yes it is. In reading the 1951 agreement it is specifically aimed at the following ...
armed forces of the parties to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization may make use of facilities in Greenland in defense of Greenland and the rest of the North Atlantic Treaty area Source
DJ Vance, Usha Vance, the vice president's wife, White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright will visit, but none of them are current military members.
It would seem they can be refused according to your reference point.
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Usa was granted free access to greenmal in 1951 and were allowed to build military bases without even telling Denmark what they are up to. It is more complicated than just closing the door on them
Not according to what is written in the agreement.
Maybe you haven't read it all yet, like the part where it says the agreement is for NATO-member nations' armed forces are allowed to use the land and buildings as they see fit. Nowhere does it state that politicians or just regular Americans can visit at will.
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_relating_to_the_Defense_of_Greenland
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It's not their place to start an international incident that gives the US their "justification" to invade.
The people of Greenland are relying on the people of the US.
Whoooops.
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Not according to what is written in the agreement.
Maybe you haven't read it all yet, like the part where it says the agreement is for NATO-member nations' armed forces are allowed to use the land and buildings as they see fit. Nowhere does it state that politicians or just regular Americans can visit at will.
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_relating_to_the_Defense_of_Greenland
Well the news today are that the visit will now only be in the USA military bases and that they will not attend a planned visit to some dog race that they had originally planned.
From what I know of other USA military bases, they are more or less considered USA territory. In any way though, the visit will now be contained within the military bases
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This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.
Yes it is. In reading the 1951 agreement it is specifically aimed at the following ...
armed forces of the parties to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization may make use of facilities in Greenland in defense of Greenland and the rest of the North Atlantic Treaty area Source
DJ Vance, Usha Vance, the vice president's wife, White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright will visit, but none of them are current military members.
It would seem they can be refused according to your reference point.
In keeping with the provisions of Article VI of this Agreement, and in accordance with general rules mutually agreed upon and issued by the appropriate Danish authority in Greenland, the Government of the United States of America may enjoy, for its public vessels and aircraft and its armed forces and vehicles, the right of free access to and movement between the defense areas through Greenland, including territorial waters, by land, air and sea. This right shall include freedom from compulsory pilotage and from light or harbor dues. United States aircraft may fly over and land in any territory in Greenland, including the territorial waters thereof, without restriction except as mutually agreed upon.
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