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I need to vent about Windows. I want workplaces to use Linux.

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  • redsnt@feddit.dkR [email protected]

    Directories routinely take mulitple seconds to load, and I don’t understand why.

    Probably thumbnail generation, and I was going to say file indexing, but surely that runs in the background. Baloo in KDE is a lot less intrusive anyway.

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    #41

    I was going to say file indexing, but surely that runs in the background.

    Assuming indexing is enables, yes.

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    • H [email protected]

      At work we have everything windows. When getting my work laptop with windows, I just intalled PopOs on it. I do have the problem of not able to use AOVPN, so I can't work from home. But since I need to go close to work, why even work from home.

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      #42

      why even work from home.

      The freedom of not wearing pants at your desk

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      • R [email protected]

        Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
        Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
        Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
        So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
        There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

        nutwrench@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #43

        This. If updates are SO important, then Windows can do it while it's shutting down.

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        • krolden@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

          Then come up with a better alternative to office 365.

          Windows isn't keeping Microsoft around. Its their office software.

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          #44

          Nextcloud and LibreOffice: allow us to introduce ourselves

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          • ? Guest

            Not really the way if one wants to cut ties with Microsoft completely though. And I suspect most would argue „then you can go the Windows route all the way and have less pain integrating client systems“.

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            #45

            If getting rid of Microsoft entirely is the goal, Samba does AD with GPOs just fine.

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            • T [email protected]

              I’m no Windows fanboy but I have to use it quite a lot, at home and at work. I don’t know what versions or settings you guys have set up but I’ve never had a Windows update I can’t postpone, ever.

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              #46

              I call BS on OP, just another ragebait made-up story.

              Forced restarts haven't been a thing for years, unless the OP somehow badly setup their machine.

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              • krolden@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                Then come up with a better alternative to office 365.

                Windows isn't keeping Microsoft around. Its their office software.

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                #47

                Actually staff and commercial vendors are keeping Windows. Plus no one gets fired for choosing MS products. That IT staff are all Windows certified means Windows will always be the answer. That users are similarly trained and need certain Windows software will mean they demand it too.

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                • R [email protected]

                  Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                  Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                  Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                  So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                  There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                  #48

                  The update thing started maybe 10 years ago or was it 15. Company I worked for went from terrible patching to this BS. Why something in between was not sufficient I will never know or why it cannot hot patch.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    I'm sure it depends on what you need it for, but I've never used my work laptop for anything that would have ever needed a terminal.

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                    I've been on Linux for a year but maintain computers for my whole family, and my kids are still on Windows for roblox. In that year I've needed to use the command line on their Windows desktops more than on my Linux desktop, because I haven't needed the terminal at all but for some fucking reason their computers won't let you just change the time zone you're in so I have to tzutil it manually

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                    • R [email protected]

                      Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                      Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                      Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                      So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                      There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                      #50

                      If you’re stuck with Windows for corporate-issued computers, the next time this happens you can abort shutdowns in Windows.

                      Command Prompt:

                      shutdown /a
                      

                      Saved me several times over the years.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                        Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                        Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                        So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                        There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #51

                        my boss told me today if we moved to literally any non-microsoft platform or software, i'd be out of a job.

                        and he's right. most of us only have careers because microsoft can't push out a software that's more than barebone functional - and everyone use them even if there are far superior alternatives out there literally only because of familiarity.

                        i'm not planning to stop giving microsoft shit of course. they should be criminally prosecuted over their exchange service even and how it's blacklisting competitors to force businesses onto the platform a la microsoft classic tactics. but eh.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          Nextcloud and LibreOffice: allow us to introduce ourselves

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                          Yeah have a great time supporting libreoffice across an org of 200/2000/20000 end users. Not happening. Not without a dedicated helpdesk team that ONLY supports users office troubles. The cost of that would be way more than their monthly 365 subscription.

                          Also theres the infinite number of comparability issues youlll run into if you need to do business with another company that only uses Microsoft.

                          Also nextcloud is great but it absolutely is not competition to one drive or SharePoint in the enterprise.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Actually staff and commercial vendors are keeping Windows. Plus no one gets fired for choosing MS products. That IT staff are all Windows certified means Windows will always be the answer. That users are similarly trained and need certain Windows software will mean they demand it too.

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                            #53

                            I'd be so bold as to say about 90% of windows business users are only using it for office/excel/outlook

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                            • R [email protected]

                              Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                              Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                              Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                              So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                              There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                              Too many times I've been at the very limit of failing to deliver an assignment. I used to have classes from morning to night (used to get home at 23:00) and sometimes I did homework at uni and scan/upload in my computer since camera-scanned documents don't look as good, so I had to deliver them ASAP, but Windows would take a LOT of time to load Teams and sometimes it started applying updates at startup, so it would be SLOW AS HELL.

                              Just some days ago it happened again (the homework was assigned a day before) so I booted up windows and what a surprise (/s) it started applying updates, so Teams wouldn't even open. I had to send the files from there to my linux computer (I love you, KDE connect!) because I still had to add some things to the document and Teams for Linux loaded in a second lol

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                My company has multiple options for computers. You can choose the windows laptop. The bigger windows laptop. The other windows laptop. Or if you are a graphic designer, that one MacBook option.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                  Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                  Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                  So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                  There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                  because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot

                                  What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    At work we have everything windows. When getting my work laptop with windows, I just intalled PopOs on it. I do have the problem of not able to use AOVPN, so I can't work from home. But since I need to go close to work, why even work from home.

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                                    What is AOVPN?

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      Your workplace probably doesn't want to spend millions (depending on size) teaching their employees how to use the terminal.

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                                      Token Linux hater of the thread. Have a cookie for fulfilling this important role of reminding us that Linux is the only OS family that ever needs troubleshooting

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                                      • carrylex@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot

                                        What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

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                                        What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

                                        If it’s anything like my company a “New” desktop is the managers old desktop.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                          Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                          Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                          So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                          There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                          I unplugged my company issued Windows 11 Dell laptop from its charger yesterday so that I could go ask a manager a question in their office, and the entire computer just shut the fuck off despite having full charge. I'm so glad I moved all my personal stuff to Linux.

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