Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery
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even without AI, to me tab groups are already feature creep bloat in browsers. do people really put that much effort into organizing tabs?
You probably look at tabs as something inherently transient. In my tab group powered workflow a lot of tabs are persistent between browser restarts and stay open at all times. To try to formalize it, there is a set of core tabs that are permanently open, and there are transient tabs are opened and closed from those core tabs. Before tab groups I used "Tree Style Tab" extension but I like tab groups more. It's especially cool tab groups are integrated well with containers so that you can have for example I2P tab group tied to I2P container configured to use I2P proxy port to automatically browse all tabs opened within group through your I2P proxy port.
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Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I'm loving it. What about Linux? What's your favourite?
They are all out of date, updates just take longer to arrive including security patches. Just use base Firefox and configure it as needed.
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It wasn't for me
browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled = falseI haven't used it and it is enabled in
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about:config. Not very obvious or user-friendly tbh.Not to mention that constantly having to turn off crap is still awful UX
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It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the Mozilla corporation is a for profit run by the same techno-fascist aggrandizing bait-and-switch narcissists as the rest of SV.
I've been saying it for years, but I will never donate to Firefox until it is freed from the shackles of a for profit corporation that can use your donation for any profit motive it sees fit; not even related to Firefox.
Isn't the "for-profit" Mozilla Corporation owned by the "non-profit" Mozilla Foundation though?
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I haven't used it and it is enabled in
about:configfor me.Have you used the tab groups?
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Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I'm loving it. What about Linux? What's your favourite?
I've been using LibreWolf for a while and it works pretty well
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ppl complaining on the internet about something you can literally turn off with one about:config line never change internet
The point is you shouldnt have to turn it off, its a web browser, we want to browse the web, not be subject to whatever shite Mozilla want to force into it. Features like this should be optional plugins you have to download.
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How do you make browsling a good experience, other than performance?
I like the webpage translation it offers. I'd hate to lose it. Sync and tab sending is also very important to me, between desktop, mobile phone, and tablet.
I'm sure debloating would inevitably mean losing features that are required to catch the average internet user.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well this is obviously personal to some degree, but for me it would be to fix bugs, don't crash, dont make me restart after an update and lose my incognito tabs, focus on being w3c compliant, block ads, maybe allow blocking annoying cookie banners and maybe allow good keyboard navigation. I like some features other browsers have, such as integrated tor browsing - but since I am not a big fan of bloat, I'm not sure whether that should be handled outside of the browser
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Have you used the tab groups?
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, I haven't used tab groups. At least not beyond an initial peek when they were introduced. They're no replacement or useful addition to my vertical hierarchical tabs (Tree Style Tab extension).
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Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I'm loving it. What about Linux? What's your favourite?
I am using LibreWolf. It's probably the best fork out there.
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Make a stable, privacy respecting, robust browser with a powerful extension environment? No let's try do do chrome 2
Mozilla could solve all of it's issuesby just removing all of the executives
I switched to FF after having enough of Chrome's shenanigans. I don't make changes easily, and I took the sacrifice of not being able to receive calls over Facebook (desktop browser, and some of my acquaintances wouldn't leave FB), and I still preferred Firefox after that.
And now they want to turn it into another Chrome? I could still just use Chrome and have the lost functionality. I mean I won't, but they will just lose users with that direction.
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I love that people get upset that their CPU is using its resources when they're using it.
I want my cou to be idle all the time! Damn it why did I spend so much on a CPU only for it to "do work"? FFS.
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They haven't needed donations for years. In the current situations donos are, at best, part of the CEO and top-brass bonus.
could be, I can't judge that. do you have any source for that info or is it based on an assumption?
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about:config. Not very obvious or user-friendly tbh.You can literally do it through the menu. Go to settings, hit labs or search "ai" and untick it
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why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.
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Did a project several years where the customrr required that the server we delivered specifically for the project never use more than 50% CPU or RAM. No requirements about how fast it actually performs its intended function, just that it can only utilise half the available resources while doing it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That RAM is mint condition collectors edition RAM. We're just storing it there temporarily.
Don't you dare fucking touch it.
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How do you make browsling a good experience, other than performance?
I like the webpage translation it offers. I'd hate to lose it. Sync and tab sending is also very important to me, between desktop, mobile phone, and tablet.
I'm sure debloating would inevitably mean losing features that are required to catch the average internet user.
Why not add this features as browser extension?
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On my pixel 6 pro it takes a few seconds before I can start typing in the browser.
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Firefox has always been resource heavy. Try having multiple streams open at the same time... The browser just takes a shit.
If you want something much lighter and more stable waterfox is the way to go.
