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public services of an entire german state switches from Microsoft to open source (Libreoffice, Linux, Nextcloud, Thunderbird)

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    Drives me crazy. Rather than talking about how MS got here and how to fix it you get this screeching.

    Same reason Linux desktop will never be mainstream unless valve keeps pumping billions into the shit regular the users need and want.

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    Yeah thats what I was trying to add with my reply. Ms is only better because its had 1000x the funding. But even with that funding its not 1000x better its only slightly better. This is a perfect time to fund alternatives and take away Microsofts monopoly.

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      It's horrendous. Can't even explain how bad it is now.

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      Yup. I switched to linux on my home computer and now the more time I spend with it, the more I pity my work computer for the cancer it has to deal with.

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      • B [email protected]

        Assuming the IT staff isn't comprised of a bunch of junior techs that only know the Microsoft suite and not the actual inner workings of how email and Linux works.

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        Conveniently, this could be a path to competence for those juniors in the long term.

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        • N [email protected]

          they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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          LibreOffice is a great alternative for 99% of people, but there is that 1% of people who is gonna be disappointment.
          This is a great step though.

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          • N [email protected]

            they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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            I think the Netherlands did this a couple of years ago?

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            • bcovertigo@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

              Conveniently, this could be a path to competence for those juniors in the long term.

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              You a glass half full type person, huh? Honestly, I admire that attitude. I hope you can keep that.

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              • I [email protected]

                This is the sort of adoption we need to bring Linux into the mainstream

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                This and software companies openly supporting Linux. For example, if Adobe and AutoCAD among others would build some tars then you could see it.

                Ironically, Game Engines are ahead of the curve on this. You could build Unreal Engine from the github page on Linux for many years now and we also have Godot and Blender. I think several PCB design and also architecture tools already exist on Linux as well, so there is definitely room for a lot of industries and businesses to shift away from Windows as long as they can find a competent tech guy to maintain everything with minimal downtime.

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                • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                  Yeah thats what I was trying to add with my reply. Ms is only better because its had 1000x the funding. But even with that funding its not 1000x better its only slightly better. This is a perfect time to fund alternatives and take away Microsofts monopoly.

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                  We're on the same page. Sorry if I came off aggressive. These threads typically become immediate shit shows the second you bring up non favorable Linux points.

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                  • N [email protected]

                    they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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                    Microsoft blocking email access to the ICJ director may be the best thing to happen for Linux adoption since the SteamDeck. Now every Microsoft lobbyst can be asked what would happen is the US government order Microsoft to block them out of their infrastructure.

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                    • bcovertigo@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                      Conveniently, this could be a path to competence for those juniors in the long term.

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                      #57

                      I hope so. I would have loved the opportunity to be in that position, and if I was still working as a sys admin, I'd still live it.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Actually being able to troubleshoot things yourself instead of waiting for a reply from Microsoft support is a godsend.

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                        I feel like most of the items aren't going to be real troubleshooting.

                        It's been a good bit since I worked the support desk, but even with generic microsoft updates, most of the 'questions' were basically the worst users finding a way to say 'It used to be this and I want it to be this way, hold my hand for an hour while telling me its not this way anymore until I get tired and then complain to someone else'.

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                        • V [email protected]

                          LibreOffice is a great alternative for 99% of people, but there is that 1% of people who is gonna be disappointment.
                          This is a great step though.

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                          People bitch and moan every time MS Office apps are updated, too; I can't count the number of times I've heard coworkers complain. TBF though, I refuse to hit the "Try the new Outlook" toggle on my work laptop - I tried it once and it was worse in every way.

                          I'm glad the only MS products I use at this point are work-issued.

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                          • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                            There are some striking studies about how use of LLMs impacts cognition. You're not wrong.

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                            Sadly I took my claim from observation of the real world. And I wasn't even talking about machine learning systems yet. Some teenagers and young adults nowadays are already walking zombies hooked to tiktok.

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                            • gutek8134@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                              It's gonna be a rough few months for the IT department

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                              Imagine them switching to Linux and suddenly shit works

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                              • N [email protected]

                                they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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                                I'm not seeing nextcloud mentioned in the article. If they are moving to nextcloud, I wish them the best. It's great for my personal use, but from my experience it's lacking in what I would expect in a work environment. With a government entity coming to use them, it would be fantastic to see some improvements on them because they're almost there.

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                                  Just wait for Microsoft to start astroturfing the initiative.

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                                  Embrace, extend, extinguish will accelerate.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    I feel like most of the items aren't going to be real troubleshooting.

                                    It's been a good bit since I worked the support desk, but even with generic microsoft updates, most of the 'questions' were basically the worst users finding a way to say 'It used to be this and I want it to be this way, hold my hand for an hour while telling me its not this way anymore until I get tired and then complain to someone else'.

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                                    'It used to be this and I want it to be this way, hold my hand for an hour while telling me its not this way anymore

                                    Yeah, but that already happens every time Microsoft does a major version "upgrade".

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                                      they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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                                      it is just step 1

                                      we will get rid of all closed source shit.

                                      weak bavarians failed after successfull transistion to "LiMux" (their linux fork) they got bribed with 8k M$ jobs in munich.

                                      but not the state of schleswig-holstein!
                                      we will prevail.

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                                      • V [email protected]

                                        LibreOffice is a great alternative for 99% of people, but there is that 1% of people who is gonna be disappointment.
                                        This is a great step though.

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                                        Same goes for any software.

                                        I don't understand why people act like Windows is the holy grail of computing.

                                        It sucks, it barely works for 90% of users, and the rest will use anything else.

                                        Just as Linux will work for 98% of people, and those last ones are due to handful of evil companies.

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                                          they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year

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                                          If the trend continues then maybe the hacker community will start focusing on Linux. Can you imagine "I don't need a virus scanner, I use Windows, the under dog OS"

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