Russia has lost over 900,000 soldiers since February 2022
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Title says "lost". I took that to mean killed.
Many do. But, in military purposes, it is not really relevant whether your army loses a soldier through death or through a severe permanent wound. He is still a soldier that you cannot use at the front.
It's a standard practice to count the dead and permanently wounded in the same number, because that's what is militarily relevant.
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IDK but seems probable if anybody on earth can take large amount of casualties, might be the Russians
Yup. They do have that feature.
As do Ukrainians. Which causes it to be a detrimental feature for both sides. If only one side had that, then it would be of advantage.
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Seeing as they are still on their murderous war of conquest, obviously not enough yet.
The total number is not what you should be looking at. The interesting thing is the number of losses in proportion to the Russian recruitment capacity. They have recruitment infrastructure that enables them to recruit a maximum of 35 000 (or, according to some sources, just 25 000) soldiers per month. They are not able to restructure their recruitment procedures in wartime, as that would first decrease the recruitment capacity for a few years.
The Russia must get their losses under that number, because as long as they don't, they won't be able to train their soldiers – they are needed too acutely at the front for that. If they can train their soldiers, their daily losses will decrease a lot.
Neither side is going to run out of population to send to the front in the next 50 years. But they can lose them faster than they are able to recruit new ones.
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dont worry....trump will create peace on earth and no more wars and junk.
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Russia is losing... Badly
Their only hope is for Ukraine to just give up
This is trumps job now
good news for ukraine, trump is on russias side.
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There is no place for sympathy to Russians, most of them support Putin. They aren't brainwashed and most are aware of the situation and do nothing.
A lot of Americans support Trump or have no willingness to do anything about his facism.
A lot of Germans support Afd.
A lot of french support le pen.
A lot of British folks support reform and Tommy robinson.
So, do all the people from these countries also not deserve any sympathy? You know the ones who can't do anything about who rules over them?
Do nothing
How do you expect the regular russian to rise up against putin when they can barely can provide anything for their family? But also, When their only source of truth has been the state media, ofcourse it's brainwashing.
At the same time Americans are not doing anything about the horrific things trump is doing and is that okay?
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How many of those are From NK or are those numbers not counted?
There has been no indication that any new NK soldiers have arrived after the initial 12000. That's ten day's worth losses or one month worth Russian army size decrease if you take the Russia's recruitment capacity into account.
When did the NK soldiers come? Four months ago? If so, they have recruited 100 000 to 140 000 Russian soldiers during that time, and the 13 000 NK soldiers are about 10 % atop that number. As they are muchore skilled than Russian soldiers, you'd assume their number is less than the slightly under 10 % you'd otherwise assume.
So, let's guess about 5 % of the current number are NK losses. Possibly less.
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Lost means "not able to fight". If they lose a leg, they might be alive, but not very useful in the battlefield. Therefore the soldier, not the human, is lost
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They didn't freely choose to enlist but if you put a gun in my hand and tell me kill that innocent person I will rather shoot the person giving me the order
Easier to say than to do. But for the 'innocent victim' case you should look instead at Israel. That's where the innocents are killed by en mass by direct order.
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But they keep taking land, don't they?
Russia? Not as far as I can tell. They seem to lose 1-1.5k people a day to lose ground. Ukraine has more tanks than the start of the war, and more of their own land back.
I think the most critical thing is manpower. AFAIK we’re not sure how many Ukrainian soldiers are left (I couldn’t find anything if you do please link it).
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I think both of you are oversimplifying.
Choice and freedom take on an entirely different meaning when you have a state media bombarding you with anti-Ukraine propaganda 24/7. It's easy for us to say from the sidelines that we'd never get swept up in a war against innocents, but probably a lot of the soldiers have been fully indoctrinated with the idea that Ukraine are a threat to their families. Not to mention they probably now have friends and family who have been killed or wounded in this war.
Putin is the real villain here. He not only started the war, he's the one who has kept it going by his refusal to withdraw troops, silenced political opposition, influenced global politics in his favour by buying elections, and used his subjects as fodder in this pointless war.
It's fucking twisted the amount of suffering one thoroughly evil man can cause.
Well, now you are oversimplifying world politics to one man's deeds. As if Nato expansionism did not play any role in the creation of this conflict. Read a little history before 2023 and you'll see acquiring Ukraine is been a race between Nato and Russia since at least 2014.
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What if I told you they're not an innocent person, they're a Nazi?
And if you refuse to fight Nazis, maybe it's because you're a Nazi yourself, hmm? Maybe we'll investigate you for that, and keep you in prison while we do. And of course we'll be investigating your friends and family to see if there are any Nazis there too.
That's the condensed version, but you get the picture. There's a lot more going on than just "here's a gun, kill them".
Exactly. But it's just easier to plain hate than to understand.
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Some they do, but actually most they don't.
The casualty rate is about 40 000 per month, meaning that there are about 25 000 cripples per month. The Russian recruitment capacity is about 25 000 to 35 000 per month depending on the source, so there should be about one cripple for one four-limbed soldier if all of the cripples were sent to the front. In reality, their number is a tiny fraction of that, as we can see in the videos.The fact they are doing it and there is footage of it is funny lmao
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Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
Lol.
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I live in Finland, where about five percent of the people are Russian-speakers. Half from the Russia, the other half from Baltics.
My image of them has changed dramatically since 2022. I've had a job where I encounter a lot of different low-educated workers, and that has a included several tens of Russian-speakers. There has been precisely one among them that has not been repeating Putin's talking points.
Nowadays I try to steer clear of everyone with a Russian name because I don't want to ruin my workday. When they hear that I've lived some time in Ukraine, the war easily comes up. And then does the propaganda.
Having this experience has been something I really wouldn't have wanted to have. I have indeed met Russians who are decent people. But, all of them have received other citizenships already years ago, because if you don't believe the Russian propaganda, you see what a horrible country it is, and want nothing to do with it.
If someone has not left the Russia by 2025, they have a reason for that. They stand for Putin's fascism.
Thank you for sharing your personal observations and experiences. They sound even more insufferable and dangerous than MAGAsites in the US.
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This isn't a war of lines on the map, really. The Russia's goal is the end of Ukrainians as a nation. And breaking NATO's article 5.
The Russia’s goal is the end of Ukrainians as a nation. And breaking NATO’s article 5.
I don't recall this being putin goal. Nations are invisible lines on earth
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The thing is, for the war it doesn’t really have much meaning whether the loss is through death or a serious wound.
Not true. A soldier that's killed isn't going back home to his family. He'll never have kids. He'll never contribute to the economy ever again.
Trying to say kills don't matter in a war is retarded.
I largely agree with you on that.
But, that depends on who is using the numbers. For immediate military use it is not important what happens after the war. For the general who is planning a war strategy, what matters is how much the army is losing manpower. For the society it does matter whether the lost manpower is dead or just missing one arm, but for the war strategy it doesn't.
Albeit, I do somewhat disagree with this myself. I keep arguing that although the total military losses of Ukraine are close to those of the Russia, it makes a huge difference that the number of dead soldiers is smaller even in proportion to Ukraine's population than the number of dead Russian soldiers is in proportion to the Russia's population. It also seems that Ukraine's recruitment capacity (in absolute numbers) is at least on par with that of the Russia and it's unclear if its maximum capacity has even been reached.
Ukrainian soldiers seem to always receive decent prosthetics that enable them to remain in working life and be with their families. In that case it is not a huge loss for the society that a soldier has got seriously wounded. If the risk of death was as high as that of Russians', there would be (even) less motivation to enlist.
But, be it like this or that, the reality is that the common practice in wars is to assume it makes no difference whether the lost soldier is dead or crippled, and because of that, they typically count military losses, not military deaths. Regardless of how retarded that is.
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High salary? I thought at this point most of their fighting force is getting paid in "Not going back to that gulag for those heinous things you did to people back home."
Most of them have enlisted out of their own free will. There are plenty of prisoners as well, but – at least to my understanding – they amount less than the people who enlisted for the money. Also, many of the enlisted prisoners are in it voluntarily because of money and amnesty. And many are simply forced to sign the "voluntary" contract by torturing them until they do.
What I've been surprised with is that as long as you are alive, you almost always do receive your salary as a Russian soldier. And your relatives will indeed receive their compensation – assuming there's evidence of you dying. There almost never is, and then you're marked as AWOL, not as dead. And if you're AWOL, your family receives no compensation. Ukraine has huge refrigerated warehouses full of Russian soldiers waiting to be sent home, because when they eventually reach the Russia, that country will either go bankrupt or has to say "we changed our mind. Although you sent your son to our war for money, we're not actually going to pay", which will seriously destabilise the Russia.
This is indeed also why the Russia's economy is such a very important factor here. There's no way they'll be able to fill the required 30 000 new soldiers per month with prisoners alone. They don't have that many hundred thousands of prisoners available for that. Send too many and you will have prison revolts.
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Just like prices ending in .99, a significant amount of useful idiots are going to look at the word “lost” and assume it means killed.
What I meant is:
Propaganda is writing 0.99 with the intention of tracking people into buying. Note here to purpose of writing 99 is used.
Casualties was born from the necessity of generals to know how many troops are available. There is no psychological trick in there. Just because civilians misinterpret it does not mean there is a propagandistic goal hidden somewhere.
See the difference?
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The Russia’s goal is the end of Ukrainians as a nation. And breaking NATO’s article 5.
I don't recall this being putin goal. Nations are invisible lines on earth
Countries are invisible lines on Earth. Nations are not.
Nations are groups of people that sometimes fill some lines, often leave some parts among the lines unfilled, sometimes cross them.
And nations can exist without any lines on Earth at all. If Ukraine was to somehow get completely occupied by the Russia, Ukrainians as a nation would continue existing. Until the Russia manages to actively purge them.
The Russia's official news agency that will not publish anything that Putin disagrees with, has written the clearest explanation about the genocidal goal. The important part is that in one part it said that all nazis in Ukraine must be exterminated, and in another part it defines Ukrainian nazis as "everybody who supports the regime of Kyiv". And then there's Putin's speech on February 21st, 2022, which was supposed to take place just hours before the missiles start flying, although the attack then had to be postponed by two days. And then there are the three articles published by RIA Novosti precisely at 08:00 Moscow time on February 26th, 2022. And Putin's speech from summer 2021.
I wish I could find the version of the "What Russia should do with Ukraine" article's text that is annotated in English language. I spent some hours looking for it a few days ago, to no avail. It's somewhere out there in the Internet – I can remember having read it.
