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Russia has lost over 900,000 soldiers since February 2022

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  • N [email protected]

    does ukraine actually have resources? russia is gigantic what could they possibly need so badly

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    #101

    I thought it was about access to that gasline without Ukraine intervention, but then they blew it up or something, soooo...nothing? Baby boy Putin has been anti-Ukraine for a decade at least.

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    • G [email protected]

      The fucking Muscovites can continue to fertilize the earth. The loss of troops and material means nothing to the Russians. The asswipes will continue to use mass assaults until the soldiers or the public revolts. Until then, Fuck Russia and US Reichwingers.

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      #102

      They're using money in lieu of skill. Eventually they'll run out if it.

      Then no more high salary for the Russian soldier – and consequently, no more soldiers.

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      • I [email protected]

        This is the reality of war. Millions of people die fighting over invisible lines on the map

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        #103

        This isn't a war of lines on the map, really. The Russia's goal is the end of Ukrainians as a nation. And breaking NATO's article 5.

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          The fucking Muscovites can continue to fertilize the earth. The loss of troops and material means nothing to the Russians. The asswipes will continue to use mass assaults until the soldiers or the public revolts. Until then, Fuck Russia and US Reichwingers.

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          ah yes, my favourite fertilizer, the heavy metal, carcinogenic, neurotoxic, lead bullet

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          • D [email protected]

            Russian has been losing and the economy is collapsing since 2018 according to these news. Every other week I see something like this. Yet we dont see them retreating.

            900k is more than 50% of there forces according to wikipedia that list 1.5 millions.

            I highly doubt the accuracy of these news reports.

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            #105

            It is collapsing. Some people have interpreted the news as the economy being at the brink of an immediate collapse, but articles I have read have talked consistently of end of 2025/early 2026.

            The difference is, in 2022 and 2023 it was assumed that once it becomes clear that the Russia's economy collapsing will be inevitable unless they immediately end the war, they would indeed end it. Now it's clear that they will indeed go to the very end, allowing their economy to collapse and then the war ending as a consequence of that.

            So, yes, it was predicted that the economy will collapse by 2026, and the war would end in 2022 or 2023 to avoid that. But, the timetable of the actual collapse has not changed. Or, at least not the timetables I've been seeing.

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              Their losses are clearly significant enough to bring a foreign army (North Koreans) to replenish their forces. Maybe not 50% but I don't think it's that far off.

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              I have not heard of another batch of NK soldiers after the initial 12000. There are talks about them possibly sending another 12000.

              With the Russia losing 1300 soldiers per day as dead and wounded, the NK troops cover 10(+ maybe another 10?) days worth soldiers.

              The Russian army is shrinking by about 15 000 soldiers per month. That was canceled out by NK troops for one month once, and possibly another one soon.

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                I dont feel bad about it

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                • B [email protected]

                  I'm not even Russian and I'm offended. Most of these people who died likely didn't even want to fight, but we're drafted anyway. Blame the oligarchy, not the people who were forced to participate.

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                  the Russo an law prohibits using drafted conscripts in a war like this. While that law is largely ignored, it goes have the effect that the Russia hires soldiers through giving them an enormous salary:
                  In rural areas a factory worker might get a monthly salary of around 70 € per month. As a soldier you get 2000 € per month, which is about 70 € per day!

                  That also means, the soldiers are in it because they have decided they want to do they in order to give a less poor life for their family. Killing others' children in order to feed theirs better.

                  A very small fraction of the soldiers you see die have come to the front against their will.

                  Therefore:
                  Roaches, not orcs.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    I travel a lot, both for work and leisure, and wherever there's no travel restrictions for Russians, like Thailand, UAE, or Egypt, it's simply overrun with Russian tourists. And they're rich, too, with the latest iPhones, Apple Watches and all the other fashion brands.

                    As much as I'd like to see l say that Russia is feeling the impact of this war, empirically, I can't say that it seems that way.

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                    Classism is present in Russia too.

                    I watched a couple of YouTube videos from a normal guy who lives in Russia talking about what it was actually like to live in Russia around the time that Tucker Carlson did that weird state visit and he peeled back a layer of intentional propaganda that the American journalist was spreading - that Russians are living in some kind of luxury paradise. Sure, everything costs less over there, but people are also paid a lot less too. If you're working class, it's hard to afford enough food to put on the table sometimes. The rich, however, are not hurting for anything and a lot of big brand labels that said they would exit Russia just rebranded themselves or quietly re-entered the market after all the commotion about the war died down.

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                      #110

                      Let's just remember Putin does have a sense of humor. Sending families of dead soldiers lost in what the world is calling a meat grinder literal meat grinders as presents is extremely funny in a way it absolutely shouldn't be.

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                      • L [email protected]

                        Ukraine has lots of valuable natural resources, but Russia has much more of everything. The biggest reason for the invasion is most likely that Putin could not let a "brother nation" prosper and drift towards Europe and being a functioning democracy.

                        Russia's population might get wild ideas if they saw that their Ukrainian cousins' standard of living starts to rise rapidly while they have to endure living under a fascist dictator. And substandard and underdeveloped infrastructure, due to the rampant corruption and a government who doesn't give a shit about the areas outside the larger cities.

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                        It's that but (playing devil's advocate for a second) Russia "traditionally" had a huge buffer between Moscow and the evil west. If Ukraine goes European and -worse- NATO, then that evil west with their evil ideas like freedom and democracy is suddenly quite close to Moscow's doorstep.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Poor person gets brainwashed, coerced and joins military to earn money.

                          "Haha, orc!!! They all deserve to die a pigs death!!"

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                          There is no place for sympathy to Russians, most of them support Putin. They aren't brainwashed and most are aware of the situation and do nothing.

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                          • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                            That's kind of what happens when your government and economy functions off of corruption.

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                            #113

                            Well its either that or collapse, problem with Russia though is that the various ethnic and political groups that could've collapsed it easily were more or less wiped out during the holodomor. Specifically the ones in Siberia and the far east.

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                            • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

                              Most of these people who died likely didn't even want to fight, but we're drafted anyway. Blame the oligarchy, not the people who were forced to participate

                              Had my father been drafted for 'nam his plan was to use his rifle to kill as many officers as possible before himself, rather than fight for the US in that war. I had the same plan in the unlikely event I was drafted for something, too

                              Maybe the Russians could have a backbone like that, yeah? They're being given tools of war and willingly go off to die without a fight? Actually pathetic, and not worth sympathy

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                              Exactly my opinion

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                                this type of propaganda is useless. few people even care or believe these numbers.

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                                The Oryx numbers at least are not underestimated – each single number has a photo to prove it. And the numbers published by ZSU always rise and descend hand-in-hand with those of Oryx – there seems to be a more or less fixed coefficient that you can convert the numbers back and forth.

                                Also, because the ZSU data is published before that of Oryx, it must be based on actual data. Then, the question is: what is the coefficient between reality and these numbers we keep seeing in these brown images. We have got a couple of leaks from the Russia, and they have been almost precisely the same as the data published by ZSU. Therefore, the coefficient is apparently 1.

                                I find it very surprising that the ZSU numbers are not inflated, but when trying to find evidence on how much they are inflated, I've only found evidence of them actually being as precisely correct as possible.

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                                  They're using money in lieu of skill. Eventually they'll run out if it.

                                  Then no more high salary for the Russian soldier – and consequently, no more soldiers.

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                                  High salary? I thought at this point most of their fighting force is getting paid in "Not going back to that gulag for those heinous things you did to people back home."

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                                  • unclegrandpa@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                    Russia is losing... Badly

                                    Their only hope is for Ukraine to just give up

                                    This is trumps job now

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                                    But they keep taking land, don't they?

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                                      Lost, huh?

                                      Does that mean casualties? As in, not necessarily deaths?

                                      Russia has lost 1,330 soldiers killed and wounded over the past day alone

                                      I would assume the answer is 'yes.'

                                      Fuck I hate the propaganda reporting on both sides.

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                                      A bit over one third of these losses are deaths.

                                      Typically in wars it's about one sixth, and that is also approximately Ukraine's ratio as well. For the Russia the number is very different because they don't care for their wounded – many of the wounded are converted to dead through inexistence of medical care.

                                      So, 900 000 Russian losses equals a bit over 300 000 dead orcs/roaches/whateveryoucallthem.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Russia just gained 900,000 eligible women in his eyes.

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                                        About 600 000 of those 900 000 are permanently crippled instead of dead. Those who already were married don't produce a eligible woman for Putin, but of course in the Russian atmosphere you won't find a woman if your number of limbs is less than four.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          And then they send the mutilated back out into the trenches literally.

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                                          Some they do, but actually most they don't.
                                          The casualty rate is about 40 000 per month, meaning that there are about 25 000 cripples per month. The Russian recruitment capacity is about 25 000 to 35 000 per month depending on the source, so there should be about one cripple for one four-limbed soldier if all of the cripples were sent to the front. In reality, their number is a tiny fraction of that, as we can see in the videos.

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