AMD vs Nvidia
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I am going to buy a new graphics card and can't choose between Nvidia and AMD. I know that Nvidia has bad reputation in Linux community but how really it works? And I heard recently their drivers got better. What can you recommend?
P. S. I don't want any proprietary drivers (so I am talking about Nouvea or any other FOSS Nvidua driver if it exists)
I have an RTX 4070 ti super and it works great. But I use proprietary drivers.
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I am going to buy a new graphics card and can't choose between Nvidia and AMD. I know that Nvidia has bad reputation in Linux community but how really it works? And I heard recently their drivers got better. What can you recommend?
P. S. I don't want any proprietary drivers (so I am talking about Nouvea or any other FOSS Nvidua driver if it exists)
The nouveau drivers are just barely enough to have a desktop, anything actually needing a GPU will perform very poorly (in my anecdotal experience with 4K). Or, to put it another way, choosing an NVIDIA card is choosing their proprietary drivers.
So you're left with AMD (and Intel). The open amdgpu driver is pretty good and is suitable for gaming. Which I do.
I have no experience with Intel, but I believe their open drivers are pretty good.
So I recommend AMD.
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I am going to buy a new graphics card and can't choose between Nvidia and AMD. I know that Nvidia has bad reputation in Linux community but how really it works? And I heard recently their drivers got better. What can you recommend?
P. S. I don't want any proprietary drivers (so I am talking about Nouvea or any other FOSS Nvidua driver if it exists)
In my experience older nvidia cards (~5 years old +) work fine, newer ones are very hit-or-miss
Amd cards of any age work pretty much perfectly as far as I can tellThough if the drivers not being proprietary is a hard line for you then amd is your only option really
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I am going to buy a new graphics card and can't choose between Nvidia and AMD. I know that Nvidia has bad reputation in Linux community but how really it works? And I heard recently their drivers got better. What can you recommend?
P. S. I don't want any proprietary drivers (so I am talking about Nouvea or any other FOSS Nvidua driver if it exists)
If you want Nvidia Reflex,DLSS and RTX and GSYNC,etc and your fine with installing out of tree proprietary drivers and fine with some issues Nvidia
If you don't care about Nvidias features AMD. -
if you are on linux AMD is the better choice, period.
don't get me wrong, nvidia will work relatively well, ive ran it before on linux. but it isnt worth the pricetag to have tons of small issues everywhere.
Just not true anymore. Must have been years ago that you used Nvidia on Linux. As someone who has been using Nvidia GPUs under Linux (Manjaro KDE mostly), recently also under Wayland (since plasma 6), I can attest that the experience is very good, no "tons of small issues".
Still though, since OP wants no proprietary drivers, he has to go for AMD, since nouveau is dog shit.
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I have 2 PCs, both on Linux. One with an AMD XTX 7900 XT, the other one has an Nvidia 3080 TI.
The Nvidia one is running the latest proprietary drivers, and they suck HARD. They just are far inferior to AMD's. The only reason to go Nvidia is to do local AI or video (editing / transcoding).
As someone who has been using Nvidia and Linux nearly exclusively for many years, I am interested in the aspects you think their drivers suck in. I have had literally no problems with them in the past 2 years, performance is incredible, Wayland just works, ...
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Does nouveau support RTX?
If by that you mean ray tracing, no. Nouveau can't and won't ever, NVK might but it will take time.
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If you're on Linux AMD is clearly superior because NVidia has Linux performance issue compared to Windows so you're ending up paying more for less. However NVidia has the monopole for a reason their product are superior but at what price ? Also if you want to avoid proprietary drivers AMD gets the win too.
I do think AMD is the better option for anyone that spend less than 800-1'000$ on a GPU even for Windows gamers. Personnaly I have made the switch from NVidia to AMD 2 years after ditching Windows for Linux, Never looked back even though Cyberpunk2077 looks amazing on NVidia RTX and some other things.
I have upgraded last year to a RX 7800 XT and have no regrets on spending that money.
When was the last time you used an Nvidia card under Linux? There are no performance issues compared to windows, haven't been any in YEARS.
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When was the last time you used an Nvidia card under Linux? There are no performance issues compared to windows, haven't been any in YEARS.
When playing the exact same games on the exact same machine with NVidia GPU you can get 8-20% better performance on Windows compared to Linux.
On the AMD side you can get up to 5% boost on Linux, that's just the reality. Though you could also loose 5% performance compared to Windows in some games.And to answer your question it should have been around 2022.
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When playing the exact same games on the exact same machine with NVidia GPU you can get 8-20% better performance on Windows compared to Linux.
On the AMD side you can get up to 5% boost on Linux, that's just the reality. Though you could also loose 5% performance compared to Windows in some games.And to answer your question it should have been around 2022.
Where are you getting these numbers? I have a 3080, used a 1080Ti before, and though my last direct comparison was a while (like a few years) ago, I had more like 3-5% difference in FPS in the games I tested, at most 10% in RS2 Vietnam, but this ultimately turned out to be a CPU bottleneck. I would assume (and, reading reviews on reddit, this seems confirmed) that the drivers have mostly gotten better since then.
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Just not true anymore. Must have been years ago that you used Nvidia on Linux. As someone who has been using Nvidia GPUs under Linux (Manjaro KDE mostly), recently also under Wayland (since plasma 6), I can attest that the experience is very good, no "tons of small issues".
Still though, since OP wants no proprietary drivers, he has to go for AMD, since nouveau is dog shit.
funny thing! my amd card just crapped itself and i went back to nvidia. everything worked fist time after installing the driver, actually.
i do notice plenty of stuttering when using the desktop though. im pleasantly surprised with the newer driver, and its gonna do very well until i get the other one fixed.
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Where are you getting these numbers? I have a 3080, used a 1080Ti before, and though my last direct comparison was a while (like a few years) ago, I had more like 3-5% difference in FPS in the games I tested, at most 10% in RS2 Vietnam, but this ultimately turned out to be a CPU bottleneck. I would assume (and, reading reviews on reddit, this seems confirmed) that the drivers have mostly gotten better since then.
Well it's from my experience during lockdown when I started to dualboot Linux and Windows with an NVidia GPU and some benchmarks I've seen on YouTube recently.
How a CPU bottleneck could happen on an OS and not on another ?
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Well it's from my experience during lockdown when I started to dualboot Linux and Windows with an NVidia GPU and some benchmarks I've seen on YouTube recently.
How a CPU bottleneck could happen on an OS and not on another ?
Oh it happens on Windows too, but wine adds some overhead, so you have less headroom on Linux. Same goes for DXVK / VKD3D - they add some CPU overhead.
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Where are you getting these numbers? I have a 3080, used a 1080Ti before, and though my last direct comparison was a while (like a few years) ago, I had more like 3-5% difference in FPS in the games I tested, at most 10% in RS2 Vietnam, but this ultimately turned out to be a CPU bottleneck. I would assume (and, reading reviews on reddit, this seems confirmed) that the drivers have mostly gotten better since then.
Here is a post with a video that seems to had the same experience I had a few years ago on NVidia GPU running on Linux.
Here is the YouTube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LI-1Zdk-Ys -
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