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  • H [email protected]

    Здравствуйте все!
    I've been actively trying to learn Russian for about two years now, and I'm still not very capable of having even simple conversations, due to the great difficulty of constructing sentences in my head. I guess I let the grammar get to me, with all the various prefixes and suffixes, so I choke. That, and the positioning of the words in a sentence. And also the concept of cases (all 7 of them). I know English and Norwegian from before, none of which has this slavic sentence logic/rules, so I find it incredibly difficult to remember/associate words/variations with their use.

    I use Duolingo, Babbel, and sometime Rocket Language, in addition to trying to expose myself to having to read/listen/reply to other native speakers, but man am I having a hard time. Any suggestions?

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    I would suggest going to the Library and seeing if they have a Russian language course, or finding one at a book store if you can afford it. I find having an actual structured course helps me in my learning, and it will usually include resources like audio.

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    • karasu_sue@pf.korako.meK [email protected]

      I usually do use proper punctuation like the Japanese full stop "。",

      but recently there's been a trend—especially among younger people—where it's sometimes avoided.

      Some even call it “maru-hara” (short for “full stop harassment”), suggesting that ending a sentence with "。" can come off as cold or aggressive.

      I guess that's why I ended up not using it myself, especially in casual contexts like social media.

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      あああーなるほど。冷たいあるいは最終的なものと思われるかもしれないです。けど、ドイツ語に慣れた私にとっては、文の終わりがわがところはどこしらないです。習うしました、ありがとう。

      This kind of sentence is difficult, so I used some translator help 😕

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      • karasu_sue@pf.korako.meK [email protected]

        Just to add a small note—“勉強” is written as “べん きょう”(ben kyou) in hiragana.

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        I knew it! I knew I was wrong but my stupid brain said otherwise, thanks

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        • notyou@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

          Same here. I learned un poco en escuela, but didn't pick up that much. I recently started trying Language Think Transfer. It's kind of fast paced, but it goes over a lot of language concepts to help you translate outside of the classroom. It follows a teacher and student learning and the one I'm doing is 90 lessons. I got to take notes and everything.

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          I recently started trying Language Think.

          Did you mean Language Transfer?

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          • witchfire@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

            J'apprends le français, C''est ma troisième langue. Il va ça va, et je suis A2 après ~8 mois, mais j'ai un amie qui m'aide aussi

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            Je suis en train d'apprendre le français aussi. J'espère que je comprendrai cette langue bientôt et que je pourrai écrire un paragraphe plus long. J'espère que vous passez un bon moment avec cette langue.

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            • A [email protected]

              Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

              I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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              Nederlands (Dutch), my native language is Portuguese and I also speak English.

              "Hallo, ik ben Cally en ik spreek een beetje Nederlands." probably translates to "Hello, I am Cally and I speak a bit of Dutch."

              I kinda suck at learning languages so I'm still at what I assume is A1 level, I think my pronunciation is ok, though. Idk how to speed up language learning but I have set my phone to Dutch and that kinda helps. For example, "Instellingen" means "Settings"

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              • ludrol@szmer.infoL [email protected]

                I think you could enjoy looking into toki pona.

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                I'm familiar with it. I have Sonja Lang's book on it.

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                • C [email protected]

                  I’ve been learning Dutch, since the Netherlands seems like a nice place to go if I ever have to flee the US. Thinking about joining some Dutch communities here so I can get more “natural” language exposure.

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                  If you ever need a language buddy, let me know.

                  There is also a Learn Dutch discord that is fairly active.

                  Duolingo sucks ass for learning languages. Dutchpod101 is pretty good, but the best is a combination of dutch books + listening like dhtchpod101 or some simple news podcasts or so.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Eh, esperanto il like the family guy Noah's ark meme, there's a mishmash of languages. Learning volapük would be esoteric

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                    All of Volapük's speakers could fit on one bus.

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                    • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                      Learning Spanish 2 before learning Spanish

                      Interesting

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                      I prefer Italian light

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                      • S [email protected]

                        I recently started trying Language Think.

                        Did you mean Language Transfer?

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                        I meant Language Transfer. It just shows as "Language T..." on my app so I guessed. 😆

                        Thanks for the correction.

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                        • whotookkarl@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                          I've mostly been using frequency lists to restore the vocab I used to have and a dual translation of Don Quixote to expand further & learn more phrases. Once I have some good foundation I wanted to check out more Spanish speaking social media, news, movies/TV, etc to get more immersion

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                          I listen to some conversation podcasts and Spanish songs with the lyrics so I can read along and look up words/phrases that I need to. I think immersion is better for picking up algunos palabras para conversacion.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Je suis en train d'apprendre le français aussi. J'espère que je comprendrai cette langue bientôt et que je pourrai écrire un paragraphe plus long. J'espère que vous passez un bon moment avec cette langue.

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                            Bonne chance!

                            Je découvre que j'aime le français 🙂 C'est difficile mais très intéressant. Mon français n'est pas parfait (et je fais beaucoup d'erreurs), mais j'apprends quelque chose nouveau touts les jours et je voudrais bien parler en français avec mes amis québécois.

                            Maintenant, je lis un petit livre de fantaisie sur les lieux hauntes. C'est bon et pas dur!

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                            • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              All of Volapük's speakers could fit on one bus.

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                              And they may not understand each other

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                              • N [email protected]

                                I just gave up Duolingo at 1770 days for French which hurt to do. I was mostly just maintaining a streak at this point and with the news of them using AI to replace their employees (even if they retracted it), I decided to quit.

                                I’ve switched to Babbel now which has been really good so far

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                                As a native french speaker, I can say with confidence that the duolingo french course sucks and that you're better off using something else.

                                I'd also recommend speaking to native speakers and watching shows in french, that's great for learning.

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

                                  I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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                                  I’ve been learning Russian for a few years, I’ve also started learning Serbian and Ukrainian a little bit.

                                  I can speak Russian pretty decently, it’s my girlfriend’s first language so I’ve had a lot of regular practice with it, I don’t consider myself fluent at this point but I can hold conversations with native speakers without too much of an issue

                                  With Ukrainian I can understand quite a bit but I haven’t had much practice speaking it with other people at all yet. I have the basic phrases memorized, things like привіт, будь ласка, доброго ранку, добрий вечір, дякую, як справи, etc. but I don’t think I could hold a conversation speaking only in Ukrainian. I’ve been studying it kind of off and on for a year or so, and I listen to some Ukrainian music fairly often

                                  Serbian I’ve been struggling to learn, I’ve been working on it for about 5 months. I think learning Russian first made it weirdly harder since the sentences are structured fairly differently. When it’s written, I can understand quite a bit, but if someone walked up to me and just started speaking Serbian I’d be completely lost

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    I always find it amusing when I meet people who speak all three languages I do: English, Spanish, and Japanese. Well, admittedly, I also know a bit of French, but it's so similar to Spanish that it feels like cheating to understand so much with so little investment. So yeah, when are you learning French next? 😆

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                                    I'm probably going to start learning spanish again, and I feel the same way you do about french, given I'm a native french speaker.

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                                    • witchfire@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                      J'apprends le français, C''est ma troisième langue. Il va ça va, et je suis A2 après ~8 mois, mais j'ai un amie qui m'aide aussi

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                                      Bonne chance! Avoir un ami aide toujours.

                                      C'est quoi tes deux premieres langues?

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                                      • H [email protected]

                                        Здравствуйте все!
                                        I've been actively trying to learn Russian for about two years now, and I'm still not very capable of having even simple conversations, due to the great difficulty of constructing sentences in my head. I guess I let the grammar get to me, with all the various prefixes and suffixes, so I choke. That, and the positioning of the words in a sentence. And also the concept of cases (all 7 of them). I know English and Norwegian from before, none of which has this slavic sentence logic/rules, so I find it incredibly difficult to remember/associate words/variations with their use.

                                        I use Duolingo, Babbel, and sometime Rocket Language, in addition to trying to expose myself to having to read/listen/reply to other native speakers, but man am I having a hard time. Any suggestions?

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                                        I had the same problem when I started learning Russian and honestly the only thing that helped me improve was just speaking and writing in Russian more

                                        the grammar is also really hard, but I found it best to just not overthink it and just get used to speaking and making mistakes but improving over time. It's easier to focus on correcting grammar when you're more comfortable just constructing sentences in that language in general and don't have to think as hard for each word you want to say

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                                        • blisterexe@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

                                          Bonne chance! Avoir un ami aide toujours.

                                          C'est quoi tes deux premieres langues?

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                                          L'espagnol et l'anglais. L'espagnol m'aide plus que l'anglais lol

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