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Are you learning another language? How far along are you?

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    I started with Duolingo and while it has all the regular duo problems, I think it actually does a good job with the kana stuff. You can turn off the Romaji too, forcing yourself to read. It doesn't teach grammar, though, so I bought Genki Vol 1, working my way through that, and wotaku.wiki has a lot of good resources.

    I really like the Cure Dolly stuff for grammar (though she can be difficult to understand, use the youtube transcripts or if you prefer reading a book someone helpfully wrote it all up). Her approach is totally different from the Genki methods, but I find it easier to understand.

    I am also using Anki with the Kaishi 1.5k Kanji deck for kanji and vocabulary. This is honestly pretty painful, I've been doing it for like 10 days now and I feel like I'm doing badly every time, but I am improving. I could probably stand to study the radical stuff to understand more how the kanji is constructed but I haven't found a good resource for that just yet.

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    {日本人|にほんじん}です

    {漢字|かんじ}、{助詞|じょし}、{敬語|けいご}あたりが{辛|つら}いとよく{聞|き}きますが{日本語|にほんご}はそこまで{厳密|げんみつ}に{喋|しゃべ}らなくてもある{程度|ていど}{通|つう}じちゃったりもします

    {漢字|かんじ}を{理解|りかい}するのに{部首|ぶしゅ}からいくのはいいですね、{部首|ぶしゅ}と{旁|つくり}についてある{一定|いってい}の{意味|いみ}を{覚|おぼ}えたら{読|よ}めなくても{意味|いみ}を{理解|りかい}するのが{簡単|かんたん}になります

    {小学生|しょうがくせい}レベルで1026{個|こ}ある{漢字|かんじ}をとりあえず{覚|おぼ}えれば{日常|にちじょう}で{困|こま}らないレベルになると{思|おも}います

    {頑張|がんば}ってください

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      Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

      I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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      French; Next is to start B1 level

      Μιλάω ελληνικά, το πιο δισκολο είναι η συγγραφή.

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        Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

        I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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        Здравствуйте все!
        I've been actively trying to learn Russian for about two years now, and I'm still not very capable of having even simple conversations, due to the great difficulty of constructing sentences in my head. I guess I let the grammar get to me, with all the various prefixes and suffixes, so I choke. That, and the positioning of the words in a sentence. And also the concept of cases (all 7 of them). I know English and Norwegian from before, none of which has this slavic sentence logic/rules, so I find it incredibly difficult to remember/associate words/variations with their use.

        I use Duolingo, Babbel, and sometime Rocket Language, in addition to trying to expose myself to having to read/listen/reply to other native speakers, but man am I having a hard time. Any suggestions?

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          Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

          I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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          Been studying French on and off since high school, but still don't feel far along at all. Ha. Much better than my Spanish and German though!

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            はい、私は日本語勉強します。(Yes, I'm studying Japanese.) I've been doing it for the past year but not consistently. I can say and understand basic phrases but I'm far from being able to hold a conversation.

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            Damn, I've been learning for half a year and was thrilled to try and read that, but I'm missingbthe Kanjis 勉強. I assume they are the Kanjis for learn (minus the shimasu at the end). And why did you use the Hana 語 Kanji to say JapanESE ? Is it pronounced go there for form Nihongo? Sorry, don't have the Japanese alphabet loaded into my keyboard yet

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              Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

              I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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              I'm learning a bit Dutch. We're quite close to the dutch border and have been going there for vacation and shopping for a while now and would like to be able to at least order food/ask for the toilet etc.

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                Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

                I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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                I'm learning English. I think I can manage. I'm reading more and faster than most native speakers.

                Meine Muttersprache ist Deutsch.

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                  Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

                  I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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                  tryin to learn Korean, not very far since I JUST started learning lol

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                    I'm learning English. I think I can manage. I'm reading more and faster than most native speakers.

                    Meine Muttersprache ist Deutsch.

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                    Dieser Kommentarbereich ist nun Eigentum der BRD

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                    • maggiwuerze@feddit.orgM [email protected]

                      Damn, I've been learning for half a year and was thrilled to try and read that, but I'm missingbthe Kanjis 勉強. I assume they are the Kanjis for learn (minus the shimasu at the end). And why did you use the Hana 語 Kanji to say JapanESE ? Is it pronounced go there for form Nihongo? Sorry, don't have the Japanese alphabet loaded into my keyboard yet

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                      From what I understand (Don't take what I say as correct as it may be wrong) but when 語(はな) hana, which is derived from 話す(はなす) hanasu which is the verb to speak, is paired with a nationality, with some exceptions of course like English which is 英語(えいご) eigo, it describes a language. So, pair 語(はな) hana with 日本(にほん) nihon, Japan in Japanese, then you get 日本語(にほんご) nihongo, meaning Japanese. Another example is French which is フランス語 (Furansugo).

                      And 勉強 is the Kanji for べんきょ(benkyo) which means study.

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                        French; Next is to start B1 level

                        Μιλάω ελληνικά, το πιο δισκολο είναι η συγγραφή.

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                        *δύσκολο
                        Συγγραφή would be used to describe authoring a book. You could use γραφή or γράψιμο or a verb construction να γράφεις "to write".

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                        • karasu_sue@pf.korako.meK [email protected]

                          {日本語|にほんご}の{勉強|べんきょう}{頑張|がんば}ってください!

                          {日本|にほん}{旅行|りょこう}にきて{日本語|にほんご}ができなかったとしても{責|せ}める{人|ひと}はいませんが、ある{程度|ていど}{理解|りかい}できていたほうがたのしめますもんね!

                          {応援|おうえん}しています


                          On the other hand, I'm studying English myself.
                          I'm still only at around a Japanese middle school level, but I hope to reach the point where I can interact with people in places like this.

                          That said, I'm still relying on AI to write this.

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                          日本人ですか。英語は勉強しますか。場語はドイツ語。二年以上日本語を学勉強しています。難しいですけど、日本語は美しい。英語、頑張ってね。

                          I hope I didn't make too many mistakes there! I try to write a few sentences per day lately, and for more complex sentences, I use a translation service (https://deeply.com/) and a dictionary to check. The key to language learning is to do at least a little every (or most) days. It's kind of amazing that I can use English to learn other languages nowadays.

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                            From what I understand (Don't take what I say as correct as it may be wrong) but when 語(はな) hana, which is derived from 話す(はなす) hanasu which is the verb to speak, is paired with a nationality, with some exceptions of course like English which is 英語(えいご) eigo, it describes a language. So, pair 語(はな) hana with 日本(にほん) nihon, Japan in Japanese, then you get 日本語(にほんご) nihongo, meaning Japanese. Another example is French which is フランス語 (Furansugo).

                            And 勉強 is the Kanji for べんきょ(benkyo) which means study.

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                            話 and 語 are different kanji though. One is talk and one is language. 語 does not seem to have 「はな」as a reading according to jisho.org

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                              はい、私は日本語勉強します。(Yes, I'm studying Japanese.) I've been doing it for the past year but not consistently. I can say and understand basic phrases but I'm far from being able to hold a conversation.

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                              I'm studying Japanese for over a year now. I recently had another motivation spike after seeing my favorite singer, Ado, live for the first time and understanding just enough to understand that I don't really understand. I have been doing mostly kanji and vocabulary practice with Wanikani over the past time, but since about 2 weeks, I'm going strong again with daily studying.

                              I think I'm currently reaching the tipping point where my sentences start to become meaningful, but still take some time to formalize. Having made it a habit to write a few short sentences in 日本語 is something I would definitely recommend, at any level probably. It helps train the learned stuff and adds an immersion factor that is very fun.

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                                Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

                                I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to "how are you" and how to say "I am still learning Greek can we speak English". haha

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                                Ich lerne Deutsch, und

                                opiskelen suomea, ja

                                estoy aprendiendo español también.

                                Furthest along with Deutsch, because I did it at school (decades ago), not making huge progress gains with any of them because Duolingo, but it fits in my day so easily and the repetition is effective I think.

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                                • karasu_sue@pf.korako.meK [email protected]

                                  {日本人|にほんじん}です

                                  {漢字|かんじ}、{助詞|じょし}、{敬語|けいご}あたりが{辛|つら}いとよく{聞|き}きますが{日本語|にほんご}はそこまで{厳密|げんみつ}に{喋|しゃべ}らなくてもある{程度|ていど}{通|つう}じちゃったりもします

                                  {漢字|かんじ}を{理解|りかい}するのに{部首|ぶしゅ}からいくのはいいですね、{部首|ぶしゅ}と{旁|つくり}についてある{一定|いってい}の{意味|いみ}を{覚|おぼ}えたら{読|よ}めなくても{意味|いみ}を{理解|りかい}するのが{簡単|かんたん}になります

                                  {小学生|しょうがくせい}レベルで1026{個|こ}ある{漢字|かんじ}をとりあえず{覚|おぼ}えれば{日常|にちじょう}で{困|こま}らないレベルになると{思|おも}います

                                  {頑張|がんば}ってください

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                                  ありがとう。

                                  私は質問があります。なぜあなたがフルストップを使わないですか。ドイツ語にはたくさんフルストップがありますから。

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                                    I'm learning English. I think I can manage. I'm reading more and faster than most native speakers.

                                    Meine Muttersprache ist Deutsch.

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                                    Möchtest du mit mir sprechen? Mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut, aber ich will es lernen.
                                    Ich war im 2003 in Hesse, ich liebe Deutschland

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                                      話 and 語 are different kanji though. One is talk and one is language. 語 does not seem to have 「はな」as a reading according to jisho.org

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                                      Ah, I didn't even catch that. OK then I might be wrong about it being derived from 話す, ah oh well, we're all learning

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                                        I'm studying Japanese for over a year now. I recently had another motivation spike after seeing my favorite singer, Ado, live for the first time and understanding just enough to understand that I don't really understand. I have been doing mostly kanji and vocabulary practice with Wanikani over the past time, but since about 2 weeks, I'm going strong again with daily studying.

                                        I think I'm currently reaching the tipping point where my sentences start to become meaningful, but still take some time to formalize. Having made it a habit to write a few short sentences in 日本語 is something I would definitely recommend, at any level probably. It helps train the learned stuff and adds an immersion factor that is very fun.

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                                        Definitely, I try as much as I can to use the Japanese keyboard and reading in Japanese. It's a cool language and same, there are some songs that I like that I have no idea what they're singing about

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          話 and 語 are different kanji though. One is talk and one is language. 語 does not seem to have 「はな」as a reading according to jisho.org

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                                          Ah nice. Thanks. Really need to get better reading Kanji

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