Support for Israel in Europe drops to record low, finds YouGov poll
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Funny, kinda' like how everyone unwinds after that person (America) leaves the room:)))
(not all Americans, hope the joke factor is clear)
wrote on last edited by [email protected]How do you figure America left the room in Israel, when Trump 100% supports Israel?
No the joke is not clear.
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How do you figure America left the room in Israel, when Trump 100% supports Israel?
No the joke is not clear.
I think the idea is that America alienated Europe enough that they have a freer hand to antagonize Israel.
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I think the idea is that America alienated Europe enough that they have a freer hand to antagonize Israel.
Possibly, I just don see how that has much influence on how Europeans see Israel.
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Possibly, I just don see how that has much influence on how Europeans see Israel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well, for one, now that the economic pressure to stay on America's good side in terms of Liberal (i.e. what passes for Liberal nowadays) minutiae has been mostly eliminated, public support of things which would oppose America's interests has become less taboo.
Also, yes, the joke was that America left Europe's sphere of influence, and now Europe can speak its mind.
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Well, for one, now that the economic pressure to stay on America's good side in terms of Liberal (i.e. what passes for Liberal nowadays) minutiae has been mostly eliminated, public support of things which would oppose America's interests has become less taboo.
Also, yes, the joke was that America left Europe's sphere of influence, and now Europe can speak its mind.
You are confusing the people and official politics.
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You are confusing the people and official politics.
I honestly don't think I am. They are both affected by the same elements, although degrees may vary.
Let's not forget the at times almost resentful detachment from all things American which has been sweeping Europe (and I'm not criticising it, don't get me wrong), and an increase in the prevalence of opinions which are in opposition to America is to be expected as well, both in the people and the politics (one feeds the other, always).
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You are confusing the people and official politics.
It's a lot easier to say things with the government's (and, perhaps more importantly, oligarchy's) blessing than without. This doesn't matter much for the average Joe, but for public figures, politicians and celebrities—who all have an outsized ability to direct national discourse—it's an important development. What we're seeing is demands for action against Israel spreading from the left to the political center.
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It's a lot easier to say things with the government's (and, perhaps more importantly, oligarchy's) blessing than without. This doesn't matter much for the average Joe, but for public figures, politicians and celebrities—who all have an outsized ability to direct national discourse—it's an important development. What we're seeing is demands for action against Israel spreading from the left to the political center.
No you are incorrect, in Europe in general governments have been behind the population on this issue for a long time.
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My favorable view of Israel ended about 25 years ago.
I don't understand how most Europeans have been so slow to wake up?Bs most Europeans or half of Europeans were against it, US on the other hand...
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Bs most Europeans or half of Europeans were against it, US on the other hand...
True, it's more the governments that have been slow.