The SteamOS era is imminent: Valve adds a new compatibility rating for games that’ll run on ‘any device that’s not a Steam Deck’
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It's pretty awesome that the steamdeck is now basically a viable and far less limited alternative to consoles for around the same price as one.
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It's pretty awesome that the steamdeck is now basically a viable and far less limited alternative to consoles for around the same price as one.
This was already true for x86 handhelds, companies like Ayaneo and GPD have been around for quite some time. However, removing Windows from the equation and the huge resource overhead it causes, and making Linux a viable alternative with their work on Proton, has absolutely shaken the industry up. It looks like Microsoft is going to try and release a hybrid Windows/Xbox OS for OEMs. I did try out Win11 on my Lenovo Legion Go for an hour or so and it was just awful compared to Bazzite (that uses the Steam Deck UI). So all up it's a pretty exciting time for handheld and low power gaming!
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This was already true for x86 handhelds, companies like Ayaneo and GPD have been around for quite some time. However, removing Windows from the equation and the huge resource overhead it causes, and making Linux a viable alternative with their work on Proton, has absolutely shaken the industry up. It looks like Microsoft is going to try and release a hybrid Windows/Xbox OS for OEMs. I did try out Win11 on my Lenovo Legion Go for an hour or so and it was just awful compared to Bazzite (that uses the Steam Deck UI). So all up it's a pretty exciting time for handheld and low power gaming!
Ayaneo and GPD are too expensive for to be compared to consoles imo. They've been above a grand and in general similarly priced as a laptop with the same internal hardware. Edit: The Steam Deck basically halved the price for an powerful x86 handheld, and made it comparable to a Switch. This is imo the only reason it sells so well.
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The Steam Deck kicked off great however, I see people flocking to the Windows alternatives like the ASUS ROG Ally because they don’t want to deal with Linux or the Bash shell.
Edit; I don’t know why this is being downvoted, I haven’t touched SteamOS so I’m comparing it to Debian 12 where BASH knowledge is essential.
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The Steam Deck kicked off great however, I see people flocking to the Windows alternatives like the ASUS ROG Ally because they don’t want to deal with Linux or the Bash shell.
Edit; I don’t know why this is being downvoted, I haven’t touched SteamOS so I’m comparing it to Debian 12 where BASH knowledge is essential.
I don't know why I'm being downvoted; I literally have no idea what I'm talking about
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I don't know why I'm being downvoted; I literally have no idea what I'm talking about
I literally have no idea what I'm talking about
Care to at all elaborate then?
Last time I checked Windows still dominates the market on personal desktop/laptop computers, most people don’t want to sit and read documentation on how to get specific software to work with their device, they just want it to work without hassle.
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I literally have no idea what I'm talking about
Care to at all elaborate then?
Last time I checked Windows still dominates the market on personal desktop/laptop computers, most people don’t want to sit and read documentation on how to get specific software to work with their device, they just want it to work without hassle.
You just said you've never used a Steam Deck. Multiple people have told you why what you're saying is ridiculous.
What more elaboration are you looking for?
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You just said you've never used a Steam Deck. Multiple people have told you why what you're saying is ridiculous.
What more elaboration are you looking for?
You just said you've never used a Steam Deck.
Correct, have yet to touch SteamOS.
Multiple people have told you why what you're saying is ridiculous.
How is what I said ridiculous? Is the market all of a sudden no longer Windows dominated?
I get it, SteamOS is essentially Steams Big Picture mode locked down however, the minute someone wants to mod one of their games using software made for Windows that they find on Nexus mods or Se7enSins they’ll run into issues or a novel of documentation for a workaround.
The vast majority of people don’t want to sit and troubleshoot for hours on end for a single mod, they want it to work out of the gate and that’s where SteamOS/Linux currently falls flat.
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You just said you've never used a Steam Deck.
Correct, have yet to touch SteamOS.
Multiple people have told you why what you're saying is ridiculous.
How is what I said ridiculous? Is the market all of a sudden no longer Windows dominated?
I get it, SteamOS is essentially Steams Big Picture mode locked down however, the minute someone wants to mod one of their games using software made for Windows that they find on Nexus mods or Se7enSins they’ll run into issues or a novel of documentation for a workaround.
The vast majority of people don’t want to sit and troubleshoot for hours on end for a single mod, they want it to work out of the gate and that’s where SteamOS/Linux currently falls flat.
As someone else pointed out, you're basically calling a PS5 difficult because it runs BSD and that must mean people need to tinker and use the terminal to make things work.
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As someone else pointed out, you're basically calling a PS5 difficult because it runs BSD and that must mean people need to tinker and use the terminal to make things work.
Cool, when’s the last time you popped a terminal on your PS5 to mod Skyrim? Oh right, never—it just works. BSD isn’t the issue; forced tinkering is.
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Cool, when’s the last time you popped a terminal on your PS5 to mod Skyrim? Oh right, never—it just works. BSD isn’t the issue; forced tinkering is.
You're forced to mod Skyrim to play it?
Who's forcing you to tinker? Are they in the room with us right now?
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You're forced to mod Skyrim to play it?
Who's forcing you to tinker? Are they in the room with us right now?
Is the gun to your head invisible or just your comprehension? Modding requires workarounds—nobody forces you to breathe either, yet here you are.
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Is the gun to your head invisible or just your comprehension? Modding requires workarounds—nobody forces you to breathe either, yet here you are.
Modding requires workarounds
No shit, Sherlock. On any platform.
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Modding requires workarounds
No shit, Sherlock. On any platform.
So Windows is "any platform" now? Cute.
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So Windows is "any platform" now? Cute.
Are you really going to pretend modding on Windows doesn't require tinkering/workarounds?
That's basically what modding is.
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Are you really going to pretend modding on Windows doesn't require tinkering/workarounds?
That's basically what modding is.
Oh right, because dragging mods into a folder is exactly like compiling kernel patches. Keep gatekeeping suffering, martyr.
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Oh right, because dragging mods into a folder is exactly like compiling kernel patches. Keep gatekeeping suffering, martyr.
You don't have to compile kernel patches to mod games on SteamOS. Why are you making things up?
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You don't have to compile kernel patches to mod games on SteamOS. Why are you making things up?
Oh, so drag-and-drop mods are equivalent to kernel hacking now? Keep rewriting history, it's adorable.
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Oh, so drag-and-drop mods are equivalent to kernel hacking now? Keep rewriting history, it's adorable.
Why are you talking about kernel hacking?
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Why are you talking about kernel hacking?
Why are you still pretending drag-and-drop mods are the pinnacle of suffering? Keep deflecting, it’s precious.
