Half of new EU city buses were zero-emission in 2024
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Bring back trolleys
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Wouldn't long journeys make that somewhat infeasible?
Charging stations don't look like they cater for buses, and I imagine charging the batteries of a bus to take a while, even at high KW.
Public transport buses won't be charged on public chargers. They have service facilities where they will be charged and maintained.
Furthermore, I talk about new busses, not about replacing perfectly fine working existing busses. So parallel to the new busses you have time to increase the capacity of the infrastructure.
I don't think the points you mentioned, are an actual problem. And remember they have planned to become climate neutral by the end of this decade. Obviously this want be the case, but nevertheless I don't see the problem to invest in the infrastructure which will cost something now but will be cheaper by a substantial margin in the long run. This is just a logical process imo.
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Wouldn't long journeys make that somewhat infeasible?
Charging stations don't look like they cater for buses, and I imagine charging the batteries of a bus to take a while, even at high KW.
Most countries have rules in place about how many hours a driver is allowed to drive without a break. It's "after 4,5h, make a 45 min pause" here in Germany, which at 80km/h or 100km/h max for buses gives you a range of 360km - 450km, which is totally fine with current technology. The biggest problem here is that companies are totally ignoring the rules here
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Public transport is not a for-profit business
In the end everything is for profit business. New fleets of buses won't magically pay for themselves. City may subsidize the public transport, but it's because the increased economic activity and quality of life attracts people and businesses resulting in higher tax revenue.
And in a democracy maybe because it is good for the citizens?
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Public transport buses won't be charged on public chargers. They have service facilities where they will be charged and maintained.
Furthermore, I talk about new busses, not about replacing perfectly fine working existing busses. So parallel to the new busses you have time to increase the capacity of the infrastructure.
I don't think the points you mentioned, are an actual problem. And remember they have planned to become climate neutral by the end of this decade. Obviously this want be the case, but nevertheless I don't see the problem to invest in the infrastructure which will cost something now but will be cheaper by a substantial margin in the long run. This is just a logical process imo.
You are actually agreeing with me here
Yes they are aiming to be neutral, but the charging infrastructure isn't ready yet. So it's only 50% if new buses. In time it will be 100%.
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I don’t think anyone said reducing climate change would come free. It’s still more ethical and cheaper than killing all the people who will try to escape uninhabitable regions of the Earth.
I don’t think anyone said reducing climate change would come free.
Yeah, well, no, NO, then we can't do that thing.
I know, but that's what it currently fails because of in general adoption.
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Electric buses should generally be trolleybuses, I think.
Even better - make most of them trams
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I'm never going to understand how battery operated public transit makes more sense than trolleybuses in places where you need climate control for the cabin. Other than lack of political will, I suppose.
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Wouldn't long journeys make that somewhat infeasible?
Charging stations don't look like they cater for buses, and I imagine charging the batteries of a bus to take a while, even at high KW.
That's why my city runs hydrogen busses. Turns out they're incredibly cheap to maintain. The biggest hurdle for them was purchase price but they managed to score a 75% donation from the EU.
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Overall more Diesel buses would result in less emissions. If it incentivises people to drive less.
Still, nice. I don't like the vibrations on diesel buses, sometimes it makes me sick. And when I'm cycling im not exposed to their exhaust fumes.
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