Fear and Uncertainty as Europe Plans to Outsource Refugees: Proposals to send migrants to Uganda raise concerns about safety, legality and the true cost of outsourcing asylum.
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So... they're basically gonna colonize Uganda, but with refugees?
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So... they're basically gonna colonize Uganda, but with refugees?
there are two races, white and political. It's not political to push the political race into the land of the political race. Anything other is the work of woke propaganda
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I had long hoped that the EU woukd be the last bastion against hate but alas, it to is embracing it with wide open arms and a goofy smile.
Australia led the toxicity decades ago and that hate and vitriol has spread across the globe. If there is one thing we humans seem to have in common its hate towards those in need and minorities.
The EU is not immune to racist propaganda.
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Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It's almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it's also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly "open borders", I'm more interested on best approach aside from that.
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Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It's almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it's also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly "open borders", I'm more interested on best approach aside from that.
I suppose it would (have been) a good start to not cause the refugee wave by not fucking up the middle east. but now that's done, and can't be undone.
what could be undone i guess would be to be reluctant to give out citizenship. Without citizenship, it's a lot less attractive to stay in a country long-term, because citizenship essentially grants right to residence and social safety net, while a temporary residence permit does not.
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Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It's almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it's also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly "open borders", I'm more interested on best approach aside from that.
allow them to work so ease the financial burden. Integrate them instead of trying to get rid of them.
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Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It's almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it's also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly "open borders", I'm more interested on best approach aside from that.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
You're framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be "how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?". What's the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: "how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?".
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don't make any trouble, you're almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
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On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a "reward".
You're framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be "how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?". What's the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: "how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?".
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don't make any trouble, you're almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
No, you're projecting an angle that I'm not trying to push.
The conversion is often framed as "do not let anybody in" or " let everybody in ", while anything in between cannot be discussed because both extremes hate the idea. You made that point very better than I could ever explain.
You're allowing the worse because you cannot tolerate something that's a bit better.
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