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Pro-Palestinian activists in Belgium damage equipment bound for Ukraine

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    Am I crazy for wanting to live in a society that condemns vandalism, full stop?

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    trolley problem image with driverless car on the top track, 5 people tied up at the bottom track

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      Yes. People are more important than property. If your reaction to vandalism in service of protesting a genocide is to be upset about the vandalism, you need to sit back and really think about whether your moral compass needs some recalibration.

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      Genuinely curious what the logic is here. So vandalism is ok as long as the person doing it is doing it in-service of a cause they believe to be on the correct side of? January 6 was objectively bad, but it's ok because they thought they were patriots "saving" the country?

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        Genuinely curious what the logic is here. So vandalism is ok as long as the person doing it is doing it in-service of a cause they believe to be on the correct side of? January 6 was objectively bad, but it's ok because they thought they were patriots "saving" the country?

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        I'm genuinely struggling to believe that you're being anything other than intentionally disingenuous here, because it's hard to imagine how anyone operating in good faith could manage to miss a point so completely and utterly.

        But on the off chance that you're serious; the logic is that purpose has far more moral weight to it than means. Punching out a Nazi to save the black man he was trying to beat to death in the gutter is a morally good thing to do. Punching out a trans person because you're a hateful bigot is a morally bad thing to do. Do I need to elaborate on that? I feel like I shouldn't have to, but then it feels like I shouldn't have to be explaining any of this.

        If you were in a sealed room with a thousand starving children, a padlocked shipping container full of food labelled "Property of Jeff Bezos", and a set of bolt-cutters, what would you do? Because if the answer is anything other than "Break the lock open", your entire moral system is completely and utterly fucked, and I do not know how to explain it to you any more plainly than that. If you actually believe that property rights are more important than human lives, then I honestly think you might need serious and extensive therapy to undo whatever damage has been done to you.

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          misleading headline. They sabotaged goods from Israel, which is their right. Anything which hurts elbit sales is a legit target.

          I support Ukraine, but Ukraine shouldn't be buying Elbit stuff.

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            Am I crazy for wanting to live in a society that condemns vandalism, full stop?

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            Am I crazy for wanting to live in a society that condemns vandalism, full stop?

            Where it intersects with the invasion of ukraine or genocide in Palestine you are not crazy exactly more like unempathetic, missing the point, having no sense of perspective, petty, myopic, tactless, Full stop.

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              misleading headline. They sabotaged goods from Israel, which is their right. Anything which hurts elbit sales is a legit target.

              I support Ukraine, but Ukraine shouldn't be buying Elbit stuff.

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              So Ukraine should send those weapons back to Israel then? I thought sending weapons to Israel was bad?

              Also what do you think Ukraine should fight the Russians with... activist slogans?

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                misleading headline. They sabotaged goods from Israel, which is their right. Anything which hurts elbit sales is a legit target.

                I support Ukraine, but Ukraine shouldn't be buying Elbit stuff.

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                Their right? Lmao

                Country under literally biggest invasion of this century should do ethical shopping? Fuck me this is hilarious 😂

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                  Their right? Lmao

                  Country under literally biggest invasion of this century should do ethical shopping? Fuck me this is hilarious 😂

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                  Fuck me this is hilarious 😂

                  I know, hahah!

                  I see your racist and zionist viewpoint from your other comments, that wouldnt have anything to do with your response would it?

                  hahah!

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                    Am I crazy for wanting to live in a society that condemns vandalism, full stop?

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                    Zionist terrorists must not be supported.

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                      Their right? Lmao

                      Country under literally biggest invasion of this century should do ethical shopping? Fuck me this is hilarious 😂

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                      Yeah, so let Hamas buy Iranian weapons without them getting bombed over it!

                      Oh sorry, not that biggest invasion of the century?

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