What character from a movie/show/game/anything did you think you were going to hate, but ended up liking?
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MCU's Captain America. I remembered some old comic books with him and always disliked his blind and unreasonable patriotism. The MCU version was a refreshing take on the character.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I’m curious which comic you read exactly? I’m questioning the comment about the always “blind and unreasonable patriotism” you mentioned.
Cap in the comics continually goes against the government and corruption since his re-introduction in the 60s. He’s always been a man for the people.
He talks about the American Dream and wears the Stars and Stripes specifically because he is fighting for what America should be and has continuously been about fighting to ensure that all people are provided equity and inclusion. He even threw away the costume and became Nomad for a while because he was so disgusted with America (the storyline mimicked Nixon and Watergate). He’s fought nationalists, nazis, and neo nazis.
Edit: not trying to downplay your personal feelings. I’m just generally curious what you read because that’s not my experience from reading an omnibus containing 60’s to mid-2000’s.
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For me it's Peggy from Mad Men. At first I thought she was going to be an annoyance but half way through the first season I've grown to absolutely love her!
Scorpius in Farscape.
He was introduced long after the main antagonist, Captain Bilar Crais, was firmly established. Suddenly the Captain was shoved aside for this new monstrous weirdo who's motivation seems a bit contrived.
Scorpius is absolutely fantastic. Wayne Pygram absolutely knocked it out of the park and then some with portraying both Scorpius and Harvey throughout the rest of the series. Probably one of the best written and acted villains in television history.
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I’m curious which comic you read exactly? I’m questioning the comment about the always “blind and unreasonable patriotism” you mentioned.
Cap in the comics continually goes against the government and corruption since his re-introduction in the 60s. He’s always been a man for the people.
He talks about the American Dream and wears the Stars and Stripes specifically because he is fighting for what America should be and has continuously been about fighting to ensure that all people are provided equity and inclusion. He even threw away the costume and became Nomad for a while because he was so disgusted with America (the storyline mimicked Nixon and Watergate). He’s fought nationalists, nazis, and neo nazis.
Edit: not trying to downplay your personal feelings. I’m just generally curious what you read because that’s not my experience from reading an omnibus containing 60’s to mid-2000’s.
Oh, no worries at all. I read some which were digitalised, probably from the 50s and early 60s (that's a big guess from my side judging from the drawing style). Those put me off regarding the character as a whole until the first MCU movie was released. Once I subscribe to the Marvel online reader again, I'd like to read some more older ones in case you've got some recommendations for me.
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Oh, no worries at all. I read some which were digitalised, probably from the 50s and early 60s (that's a big guess from my side judging from the drawing style). Those put me off regarding the character as a whole until the first MCU movie was released. Once I subscribe to the Marvel online reader again, I'd like to read some more older ones in case you've got some recommendations for me.
I could probably recommend some. Do you want Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson, or Bucky Barnes versions?
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I could probably recommend some. Do you want Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson, or Bucky Barnes versions?
That's very kind of you. Steve Rogers, please.
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If you haven’t seen the umbrella academy you should watch it just to see Nathan’s actor absolutely killing it in that role, he does such an incredible job. He brings a lot of the same humour but a lot of depth and actual character development that misfits had… less of
I never connected that they were the same actor.
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Jar Jar Binks.
But only after I read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
I want to see episodes 2&3 from the Darth Jar Jar timeline
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That's very kind of you. Steve Rogers, please.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Sure thing, I had to look up issues because I couldn’t remember as I read them years ago. Some of these will be campy because they are old, but they are some good stories:
- Cap 193-200 (Madbomb)
- Captain America 253-254 (Baron Blood story —> the Civil War MCU movie has a moment that parallels what happens in this comic but different outcome)
- Cap 372-378 (Streets of Poison)
- Cap 450-453 (Man Without a Country)
- Civil War (not a Cap comic per se, but a good arc)
- Cap 170-176 (Secret Empire)
There’s probably a lot more like his fights with Nuke, fights with US Agent, his partnership with Falcon and being a White patriotic symbol partnered with a Black man (Sam Wilson - Falcon) from Harlem, Winter Soldier, and a lot newer ones
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Sure thing, I had to look up issues because I couldn’t remember as I read them years ago. Some of these will be campy because they are old, but they are some good stories:
- Cap 193-200 (Madbomb)
- Captain America 253-254 (Baron Blood story —> the Civil War MCU movie has a moment that parallels what happens in this comic but different outcome)
- Cap 372-378 (Streets of Poison)
- Cap 450-453 (Man Without a Country)
- Civil War (not a Cap comic per se, but a good arc)
- Cap 170-176 (Secret Empire)
There’s probably a lot more like his fights with Nuke, fights with US Agent, his partnership with Falcon and being a White patriotic symbol partnered with a Black man (Sam Wilson - Falcon) from Harlem, Winter Soldier, and a lot newer ones
Thank you so much. I highly appreciate it.
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Thank you so much. I highly appreciate it.
My pleasure! I hope you enjoy them if you read them.
