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Gmail alternative: good idea to use personal domain+hosting?

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  • S [email protected]

    Wait, is everyone using the same account or something? Why don't they just use whatever email account they already use?

    Proton just sends and accepts regular, unencrypted email, which is totally fine for something like a casual game. Whether you use Proton or something else is irrelevant, all that matters is that your end works.

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    #58

    I’m not the only user of my domain, I have other users.

    I don’t want to use Google.

    My use case unfortunately meant proton and Tutanoa did not work.

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      #59

      Yeah,but please don't use Proton unless you are aware of their drawbacks and marketing lies.
      (I am not counting the tweet here...)

      Or go through my post history,I have explained multiple times here why proton is not an ideal choice.

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      • S [email protected]

        I know there are alternatives like proton mail, tutamail, mailbox.org, etc... But what would be the issue if I create an email using my personal domain, stored in my hosting.. maybe encryption? It seems that no-one even consider this option, but I am not sure why...

        What would you suggest?

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        #60

        I'm basic. Been using namecheap+privateemail for years and no complaints. Mostly through the clients Thunderbird on desktop of FairMail on mobile.

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        • astronaut_sloth@mander.xyzA [email protected]

          Rolling your own email is a pain. That said, I use a VPS and host my own server with domain name and site for $5/month. Setting it up was a pain, but once you get all the records right so you're not considered spam, it works really well. That said, I haven't done anything with webmail; I strictly use IMAP and SMTP.

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          #61

          I agree!

          Setup felt like a nightmare but once everything is up and running it's fine.

          The other issue is maintenance which is where I gave up. Easier and more painless to just pay another company to do that and not have to worry about server security, spam, the endless SSH requests for 'admin', etc etc

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          • C [email protected]

            I agree!

            Setup felt like a nightmare but once everything is up and running it's fine.

            The other issue is maintenance which is where I gave up. Easier and more painless to just pay another company to do that and not have to worry about server security, spam, the endless SSH requests for 'admin', etc etc

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            #62

            Easier and more painless to just pay another company to do that and not have to worry about server security, spam, the endless SSH requests for ‘admin’, etc etc

            Definitely. I do it for fun though. I'm kind of a masochist 😂

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            • S [email protected]

              I know there are alternatives like proton mail, tutamail, mailbox.org, etc... But what would be the issue if I create an email using my personal domain, stored in my hosting.. maybe encryption? It seems that no-one even consider this option, but I am not sure why...

              What would you suggest?

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              wrote on last edited by
              #63

              I've been using my own domain pointed at Inbox.eu. They're based in the EU and I haven't had any problems, I pay for 2 users, the price is something like 12€ per user per year, so it's cheap enough for me.

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              • S [email protected]

                I know there are alternatives like proton mail, tutamail, mailbox.org, etc... But what would be the issue if I create an email using my personal domain, stored in my hosting.. maybe encryption? It seems that no-one even consider this option, but I am not sure why...

                What would you suggest?

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                #64

                If you mean self-hosting email, then good luck.

                It’s a lottery with the IP and even the IP space you get, whether anyone will actually receive your emails.

                I hosted my own for a few years, but god fed up telling everyone to dig through their junk folder for my emails, and not being responded to very often, probably because of just that.

                Maybe some providers have it better, but I tried a few and each was just not good. I really think Microsoft, Amazon, Google and other big players have intentionally separated the good, trusted IPs, ones they use for email services specifically, and made the other worse

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                • B [email protected]

                  Those were in order (it was 15 years ago so i don't recall if all existed but at least some did). Probably ip range but who knows

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                  Yeah, did the whole dance too, and tried multiple providers, but no dice. Some got through to others and some to others, but none was even good enough getting through to most.

                  This was just a few years ago.

                  I don’t think these safety/security signatures or protocols or whatever, work, as they are supposed to. If the IP space you get has bad reputation, nothing matters, you’re sol.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    I know there are alternatives like proton mail, tutamail, mailbox.org, etc... But what would be the issue if I create an email using my personal domain, stored in my hosting.. maybe encryption? It seems that no-one even consider this option, but I am not sure why...

                    What would you suggest?

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                    #66

                    I have my own domain and pay for Zoho to host my email. It works well aside from the occasional site that refuses to accept my email as valid because it's not a .com/org domain.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      I've been using my own domain pointed at Inbox.eu. They're based in the EU and I haven't had any problems, I pay for 2 users, the price is something like 12€ per user per year, so it's cheap enough for me.

                      cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #67

                      Do you have alias limit per user per domain?

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                      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                        Do you have alias limit per user per domain?

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                        #68

                        It's one domain per mailbox with 5 aliases per mailbox.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          It's one domain per mailbox with 5 aliases per mailbox.

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                          #69

                          Thanks 🙏

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                          • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                            Thanks 🙏

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                            #70

                            Of course 🙂

                            I think the main thing here is to use your own domain, which means you can point it at whatever host you want, whenever you want. Inbox.eu has worked well for me, it’s simple but also cheap and from the EU 🙂

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                            • D [email protected]

                              What benefits do you get from selfhosting?

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                              #71

                              One is that I can keep family email (everyone on the server) in the same ecosystem, so private information send between family members isn't as likely to leak.

                              Another is also privacy -- my mail isn't being used to build a profile about me.

                              I also like the control and the ability to look at logs. If I don't get an email, I can look at the server and figure out why it didn't show up. It just provides more information for me.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                The other user already shared some article with lots of historical data, both words and actions, that should give a better picture.
                                Anyway, since you decided to ignore all that, then there is also to say that the tweet was a speculation made months ago on a topic where nothing happened yet (or at least, I haven't read any news about antitrust in the last month).
                                I don't think anything will happen, but anyway that makes it at most naive.

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                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/doges-extremely-severe-ftc-cuts-prompt-request-to-delay-amazon-trial/

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  He stands to gain nothing from this. This is a swizz company.

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                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/doges-extremely-severe-ftc-cuts-prompt-request-to-delay-amazon-trial/

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    The other user already shared some article with lots of historical data, both words and actions, that should give a better picture.
                                    Anyway, since you decided to ignore all that, then there is also to say that the tweet was a speculation made months ago on a topic where nothing happened yet (or at least, I haven't read any news about antitrust in the last month).
                                    I don't think anything will happen, but anyway that makes it at most naive.

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                                    https://www.wired.com/story/federal-trade-commission-removed-blogs-critical-of-ai-amazon-microsoft/

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      He stands to gain nothing from this. This is a swizz company.

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                                      https://www.wired.com/story/federal-trade-commission-removed-blogs-critical-of-ai-amazon-microsoft/

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                                      • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        https://www.wired.com/story/federal-trade-commission-removed-blogs-critical-of-ai-amazon-microsoft/

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                                        #76

                                        Why you keep posting me articles about the FTC, when the appointee in this discussion was for the department of justice, and has been confirmed a week ago (on 11th I think)?

                                        https://www.theverge.com/news/626502/trump-doj-recommends-google-breakup-antitrust-search-chrome

                                        This is more relevant as the topic was antitrust and breaking monopolies. This still happened before Slater was officially confirmed, and it's something that was not started now. But at least is relevant.

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